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Retlaw83 wrote:It shocks me that Europeans tend to think of themselves as worldly and above Americans, when some think shit like what you're spouting is true. Every country has it's far share of stupidity and stupid policies, and a lot of things that look ridiculous and are denigrated by outsiders aren't a big deal in reality.
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Username wrote:Aren't there guards and stuff on campus to? Do you have a "now its sleep" time to? ...No I'm not teasing I'm curious.
Wow, you're retarded.

College campus networks try to limit torrents and things so some idiot company doesn't hold them liable and they get bad press. I went to college before the trend was to limit peer-to-peer networking, but the school I went to blocked access to a lot of ports used for online gaming. That wasn't a big deal, though; you just pirated copies of whatever you wanted to play, distributed it around the dorm, and did LAN games.

As for guards, most colleges have an on-campus police force like a town would. People who go to college are adults, and when they eat and sleep is their choice.

It shocks me that Europeans tend to think of themselves as worldly and above Americans, when some think shit like what you're spouting is true. Every country has it's far share of stupidity and stupid policies, and a lot of things that look ridiculous and are denigrated by outsiders aren't a big deal in reality.

It's still bloody ridicilous. Why should renting a room in a college campus be any different from renting a room from Company A - Housing.

And aren't college campuses in cities, in towns? Why does the college need a special private police? Further more as someone studying at a place AND renting a room in a place and basicly being part of a place you'd think I was given MORE liberty to do what I want in that place than if I was simply renting a room in town from some landlord.

But from what I have read is that in some situations college badgeboys seem to think they have more power than the police. Heck there's a bunch of videos out there of students handing out flyers and crap to fellow students being told to stop. I've yet to see a landlord to the same.

And I didn't say America only, this stuff seems to happen in Britain to. Not really about the internet but some high-class special places have etiquette rules for example. But it sure as hell isn't the norm for France or Sweden or Germany. Nor would tazering people for asking stupid questions be tolerated even for a moment in Britain. Though who knows, might not take to long for that shit to reach us to?

So yeah I think we have more liberty on campus and are thus BETTER than you in THAT regard. But this wasn't about being better than anyone, I just thought it was weird and was curious to if you had some more restrictive things beyond the ones I knew.

And I never said that Europe is above or more worldly than the United States overall. My question didn't have shit to do with your personal complexes. There is no "debate" or issue in Europe about this. It's you who are making most of it up. Nobody is running around measuring dicks with the americans all day long, be that in media or elsewhere.

But at least we try not to police the world and have understanding for others while at the same time not freaking out when someone criticizes us for what ever we do. Also we do not rename our foods due to peoples opinions about us. And yes I realize its a minority that does this and this is why nobody is putting the blame on America as a whole, except Americans themselves - thinking we are doing it.
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Shit sucks when you live in on-campus housing. End of story.
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I really don't know which universities you are referring to in the UK. I never was in dorms but I visited lots of friends and there sure as hell weren't any rules, except for the basic premise that you keep it down during the early hours of the morning, but that's obvious. In fact I stayed in dorms when I was in France and they were stricter about night time peace than they were in the UK.
In my university, at least, many of the dorms are run by graduate students who get free accommodation in exchange for being "on duty". They've been students as well as very, very rarely interfere.

The only exception I can think of was when I was "seeing" this girl who lived in Christian dorms. That's the only place where they had rules, i.e. you couldn't have guests of the opposite sex stay over overnight and all the guests had to sign in and out.
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I heard something about the royal school of ballet. But that is almost understandable.

Ah so they do have it in France as well? I just know from my a few of my friends that they are pretty open there but I guess it depends on the place.
See it wasn't that stupid of a question, if they have rules about night time. No need to feel offended Retlaw ;)
Even the frenchies do it if we are to believe Frater. Though I'm inclined to belive it's more of a general rule. There's a general rule in Sweden that any loud noices are forbidden after 22.00 clock, doesn't matter where you are. Except if you have a permit or have informed your neighbours.


What place was it? Do you remember? Cause I've totally heard the opposite. But I guess that's mostly about the university overall. Never really talked about the dorms. Did a short search over the web and it seems they don't even have supervisors in France for higher education, only for those in boarder schools (like private institutions).
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The universities are UCL in London and Paul Cezanne II in France, in Aix-en-Provence.
There aren't "rules" as such, it's basically just about night time peace, which is something that you said there is in Sweden as well. It's not that strict - we partied almost every night and only got told off about 3 times during the entire year. They don't tell you off to enforce a rule as such, most of the time there are simply people who complain about the noise because they have an exam the following day or whatever and then someone will come and ask you to keep it down. However, in many of the parties the whole floor was involved anyway so there was no-one to complain.
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I finally caved and bought Minecraft this afternoon. God help me I'm not going to get anything done now.
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This thread is officially about Minecraft
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Its my first game on survival, but I holed up on a mountain top and hollowed that bastard out, I've found iron and diamonds. I've got gold boots, an iron chest plate and leggings, and a diamond helmet and iron tools.

I've also made my own skin if you want to check it out. I'm like a friggin lumberjack over here.
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Do you run like that as well?
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Sure do, minus the strange bobble-heading, but I play in first person so I never see it.
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Username wrote: It's still bloody ridicilous. Why should renting a room in a college campus be any different from renting a room from Company A - Housing.

And aren't college campuses in cities, in towns? Why does the college need a special private police? Further more as someone studying at a place AND renting a room in a place and basicly being part of a place you'd think I was given MORE liberty to do what I want in that place than if I was simply renting a room in town from some landlord.
Yeah, campus police suck. They get in trouble when they cross the line, though, unless they do it to someone to stupid to speak out.

I'm guessing you've never lived in a college dorm. Dorms have different rules than if you were renting an apartment. It's just how it is.
Nor would tazering people for asking stupid questions be tolerated even for a moment in Britain. Though who knows, might not take to long for that shit to reach us to?
The guy was being a nuisance all day, and the cops finally tasered him after being fairly polite about it for awhile. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University ... r_incident

I don't want to live in a country where the police don't have the right to tazer someone who's resisting arrest and been an obnoxious asshole all day.
So yeah I think we have more liberty on campus and are thus BETTER than you in THAT regard.
Well, the stupid question thing just got shot down, and you've obviously never lived in a dorm. Have anything else?
And I never said that Europe is above or more worldly than the United States overall.
Then phrase your question appropriately next time instead of crying when someone thinks you meant what you said.
But at least we try not to police the world and have understanding for others while at the same time not freaking out when someone criticizes us for what ever we do.
Your previous posts and the statements I've been putting holes in doesn't really make it seem like you seek to understand others. Nor does the adversarial tone of the post you made that started all of this off.
Also we do not rename our foods due to peoples opinions about us.
Yeah, one cafeteria in the whole country does it for a month and we're all guilty. I could rename Swedish meatballs "overly sensitive dweeb" meatballs in honor of you and Snake if you want.
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Retlaw83 wrote:
Username wrote: It's still bloody ridicilous. Why should renting a room in a college campus be any different from renting a room from Company A - Housing.

And aren't college campuses in cities, in towns? Why does the college need a special private police? Further more as someone studying at a place AND renting a room in a place and basicly being part of a place you'd think I was given MORE liberty to do what I want in that place than if I was simply renting a room in town from some landlord.
Yeah, campus police suck. They get in trouble when they cross the line, though, unless they do it to someone to stupid to speak out.

I'm guessing you've never lived in a college dorm. Dorms have different rules than if you were renting an apartment. It's just how it is.
Nor would tazering people for asking stupid questions be tolerated even for a moment in Britain. Though who knows, might not take to long for that shit to reach us to?
The guy was being a nuisance all day, and the cops finally tasered him after being fairly polite about it for awhile. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University ... r_incident

I don't want to live in a country where the police don't have the right to tazer someone who's resisting arrest and been an obnoxious asshole all day.
So yeah I think we have more liberty on campus and are thus BETTER than you in THAT regard.
Well, the stupid question thing just got shot down, and you've obviously never lived in a dorm. Have anything else?
And I never said that Europe is above or more worldly than the United States overall.
Then phrase your question appropriately next time instead of crying when someone thinks you meant what you said.
But at least we try not to police the world and have understanding for others while at the same time not freaking out when someone criticizes us for what ever we do.
Your previous posts and the statements I've been putting holes in doesn't really make it seem like you seek to understand others. Nor does the adversarial tone of the post you made that started all of this off.
Also we do not rename our foods due to peoples opinions about us.
Yeah, one cafeteria in the whole country does it for a month and we're all guilty. I could rename Swedish meatballs "overly sensitive dweeb" meatballs in honor of you and Snake if you want.
First things first, you're the overly sensitive meatball who started a rant just cause I made a pun against college dorms in America.

Now to the few actual arguments you had:
No I've not lived in a dorm, I live in an apartment.
We do not have what you define as "dorms" as a system in Sweden in the way you do because - hey - we actually consider our students adults. There are large student complexes with housing and common areas but these do not have special rules. The only common idea is the people hired to be there. But in contrast to yours they have absolutely no obligations to maintain "the peace" or what ever. They are there to organise activities, hold residential meetings and get someone to fix the water pipe if it breaks.


Again, maybe we actually gave more liberty than you in this regard.
Again, maybe we trust our students and citizens more than you?
Again, maybe our students aren't such obnoxious assholes as yours?
Take your pick.

You could say we do have something similiar to a dorm system just without the private police and various special rules and limits put on students in contrast to other citizens.

Also about the tazering, all it says is that the guy was waiting patiently for 2 hours and then was refused the right to ask the question he had signed up to ask. When he finally was given the right to ask the question he was dumb enough to utter the word blowjob in the presence of a presidential candidate, then got tazered when they tried to escort him out and he refused.
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I'm guessing English not being able to be comprehended well is an issue with all Swedes.
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Accept defeat.
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Hard for you to defeat me when you ramble about things I didn't touch on, and the things I did touch on you take out of context to ramble more.

Either this guy is an alt of Snake, or Swedes have fucking problems.
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What things didn't you touch on?
You claimed i had no credibility because I didn't live in a dorm and that I didn't know that "dorms do have those special rules". I explained to you that our dorms or what can be translated into "dorm" do not have the ridicilous measures yours have.

Do I need to spoon feed you the rest of my post to?
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I've been playing Fallout. Just got the chip back to base, killed everyone except the overseer on the 3rd floor whenthey tried to stop me getting in that guarded room, only to find its contents were shite. Reloaded in anger.

Also playing SimCity 4, Duke 3D, and Doom.
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Alright fuck this shit, Retlaw you get last word. Sad to ruin an epic thread like this with so much OT. Sorry bout that.


Yonmac you want to try some Doom online gameplay? Been years since I did that...Please?
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