The Master

MrBlue · Post by **MrBlue** » Thu Aug 08, 2002 1:49 am

Hey all i got Fallout Radioactive pack a week ago and im playing through Fallout 1 for the first time and im stuck right near the end, i stole Vree's experiment disc the one about the mutant autopsy and them being sterlile but when im at the Vault the Master is in i cant open the lift doors on floor 4, I cant kill the Master ive tried thatabout 10 times and fail miserably and I cant tell him about Mutants being sterile! do i need ot have a specific speech skill to tell the master that and how do i open the lift doors on lvl 4!

MrBlue
p.s what happened to the Vault 13 message boards?

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Thu Aug 08, 2002 2:08 am

MrBlue wrote: What happened to the Vault 13 message boards?

They closed down a long time ago. *sob*.

MrBlue · Post by **MrBlue** » Thu Aug 08, 2002 2:11 am

:x i loved those boards

Slave_Master · Post by **Slave_Master** » Thu Aug 08, 2002 12:04 pm

Well.... I guess the only option for you is to level up, and raise one of the skills necessary. That is easily done by killing the deathclaws in the Boneyard, resting, and killing the batch that has respawned, rinse, and repeat. If you have finished that quest, than you can hang around the Military Base and dispatch the patrols.

Than go kill the Master.

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Thu Aug 08, 2002 3:53 pm

I think there is an Intelligence and Speech check to talk your way through it. I'd guess above 100% speech and chew some mentats to up your INT, I'm guessing so let's hope Red finds this thread.

Anyway, killing the Master is more fun. It sounds like your character is not powerful enough to beat the master. All you need is a good weapon(turbo plasma rifle for example), decent skill for that weapon, power armor and lots of stims in your 2nd item slot, preferably super stims. It's a long fight, you might try to save once in a while if it goes well. For levelling up, the deathclaw place is good and also wandering around the wastes for encounters.

Oh, and there is the difficulty slider if the fight is still too hard.

Zbyram · Post by **Zbyram** » Thu Aug 08, 2002 9:04 pm

Here's the trick that will allow you to kill the master without even shooting him. At the beginning of the fight allow him to shoot you once, but make sure he hits one of the 2 small robots that stand in front of him too. After that just hide behind the pillar so that he can't shoot you. Now your only problem are single Super Mutants 8O that will appear from the corridor, but you should cope with them since you reached the Master. The liittle robots will kill him for you, but it will take a while. Alternatively you can always detonate the bomb on floor 4 without even visiting the Master. :twisted:

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » Sun Aug 11, 2002 8:54 pm

Here's what I did with the Master... but I don't think it'll work for you considering that I was a complete bad ass at the time and your character doesn't seem like one...
Firstly, I tried to convince him that mutants were sterile... but I couldn't find the right thread in the conversation or something and I ended up telling him to go F*** a warhead... so he shot me... and I survived, but it hurt, so I hid behind one of those pillars. Then mutants started to spawn in the tunnels, so I shot those muties with my plasma rifle in the eyes until they died. I think there's about a dozen of them or so and then they stop coming... and they do give experience, so you might as well kill them if you haven't done the cathedral yet... then I popped out from behind the pillar and shot the Master in the eyes and popped back behind the pillar... rinse and repeat until he blows up...
As for the robots helping you out, I found that the master could destroy the robots in the first shot if you give him the chance... the robots can make it easier, but in my experience, it's easier to kill him yourself...

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Sun Aug 11, 2002 10:33 pm

The thing is, that you can't make Master commit suicide without (the knowledge of) VREE'S HOLODISC! You need to read the autopsy report, which tells you that muties are sterile.

Spazmo · Post by **Spazmo** » Sun Aug 11, 2002 11:11 pm

I'm pretty sure you also need the holodisk itself. It wouldn't make sense for the Master to believe some schmuck (good God, that must misspelled) who walks into his base and says his muties are sterile.

Zbyram · Post by **Zbyram** » Sun Aug 11, 2002 11:52 pm

The thing is, that you can't make Master commit suicide without (the knowledge of) VREE'S HOLODISC! You need to read the autopsy report, which tells you that muties are sterile.

Now that's a good one considering Mrblue originally wrote

i stole Vree's experiment disc the one about the mutant autopsy and them being sterlile

Next time Kashluk you should try to actually =READ= what people write over here.

Warlord · Post by **Warlord** » Wed Aug 14, 2002 5:14 pm

I think you only need to use the disk your self, and then when you know about the matter and tell to Master, he checks it from his own researchers. So I don't think you need to have it in your inventory when you speak to him.

DJ SlamÃƒÂ¡k · Post by **DJ SlamÃƒÂ¡k** » Wed Aug 14, 2002 8:14 pm

Yeah. When you tell him about the mutants being sterile, you must tell him to check with his mutants (NOT his Lieutenant!), and then to ask a female mutant. It requires some Charisma and Speech, I believe.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 12:26 am

DJ SlamÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¡k wrote:Yeah. When you tell him about the mutants being sterile, you must tell him to check with his mutants (NOT his Lieutenant!), and then to ask a female mutant. It requires some Charisma and Speech, I believe.

Wierd, when I told him the mutants are sterile he didn't belive me so I gave him the holodisc. He then said he needs to process the information and then told me I was lieing, I simply said that he is hiding from the truth and he gave up. I didn't tell him to ask the mutants.

fighting the master is really easy. I just stood in front of him with my Plasma rifle and aimed for his eyes making 60-150 damage every turn. He didn't harm me as my trusty power armor absorbed all of the damage.

Dogmeat (+friends) took care of the mutants.

Raymondo2000 · Post by **Raymondo2000** » Sat Aug 17, 2002 10:26 pm

Dogmeat died before I got to the master

it was so sad

Big Davey Havok · Post by **Big Davey Havok** » Tue Aug 20, 2002 3:05 am

Im going to have to play thru Fallout again some time soon and try to defeat the master this way. Last time I played I used a Strong 'n' Dumb character so I just pounded the Master into submission.

Slave_Master · Post by **Slave_Master** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 4:04 pm

In my last game Dogmeat died in the Hub right after I got him. I was certainly thankful.

DJ SlamÃƒÂ¡k · Post by **DJ SlamÃƒÂ¡k** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 4:29 pm

Dan wrote: Wierd, when I told him the mutants are sterile he didn't belive me so I gave him the holodisc. He then said he needs to process the information and then told me I was lieing, I simply said that he is hiding from the truth and he gave up. I didn't tell him to ask the mutants.

I always did it as I described. I never got these dialogue options. Maybe it needs Luck, too.

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 10:32 pm

Are you sure you meet all the Speech, Int and Chr checks? I doubt luck has anything to do with it.

Pastorius · Post by **Pastorius** » Sat Sep 28, 2002 1:18 am

VasikkA wrote: Anyway, killing the Master is more fun. It sounds like your character is not powerful enough to beat the master. All you need is a good weapon(turbo plasma rifle for example), decent skill for that weapon, power armor and lots of stims in your 2nd item slot, preferably super stims.

Were there super stims in FO1? Sorry, itÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´s just that I played it long ago, and I might be forgetting more things than I thought

Slave_Master · Post by **Slave_Master** » Sat Sep 28, 2002 11:01 pm

Duck and Cover

The Master

The Master

Re: The Master

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