Lionheart's delayed!

Kreegle · Post by **Kreegle** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 2:08 pm

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Lookee what we have here... according to <a href="http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/categories/p ... =lionheart" target="_blank">Electronics Boutique</a>, the up-and-coming RPG <a href="http://lionheart.blackisle.com" target="_blank">Lionheart</a> has been delayed! No longer will it be released sometime in November... you're now going to have to wait for March 31st, 2003! <a href="http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/categories/p ... t">See?</a>

It must be said, of course, that EB's release dates shouldn't be taken as gospel... but still, they're rarely too far off the mark. Frankly, I think this is pretty good news. More time spent on smoothing out the nasty lumps means we'll enjoy the finished product a hell of a lot more. Hurray for not rushing the game out the door! Thanks to the lovable Mystery Informer for letting us know!

Red · Post by **Red** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 2:18 pm

Yup, I'm all for it being delayed... Gives me a glimpse of hope where i saw none - seeing it as a temptative cash-cow to make quick money... It being delayed might actually yield a decent product in it's stead.

Section8 · Post by **Section8** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 3:14 pm

More dev time = the goods. First the return of a speech skill, and now some more time to get it all right. Lionheart is looking better all the time.

Ixian · Post by **Ixian** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 3:23 pm

Patiance is a virtue...

Crow of Ill Omen · Post by **Crow of Ill Omen** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 4:40 pm

One of our projects (not one I was on, thank god) once went 18 months over the deadline. After two PM changes and hideous amount spent on contract programmers, it was eventually canned. Ouch.

Not that I'm suggesting Lionheart will do the same. I'm just as glad as everyone else it isn't being forced out the door. Gives the developers more time to surf the web and bitch about Microsoft ... er, I mean, polish up the game.

Deathy · Post by **Deathy** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 5:30 pm

IWD2 was supposed to have a 4 month dev period. That expanded to 13 months, by the deadline being pushed back multiple times.

As I understand it, NWN was also pushed back multiple times, in fact, I think that was the reason Interplay/Blackisle dropped them (The time of development was ludicrous, and BioWare had little to show for it)

Both games have at least one thing in common, they aren't very good. (IWD2 breaks if you do certain things, and NWN has an incredibly half assed way of preventing the same things)

It looks to me as if extended deadlines are a fine thing, except when they get extended multiple times, or too far.

Furthermore, a longer development time can lead to the developers becoming ambitious, and trying to fit all too much into their game.

Red · Post by **Red** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 7:40 pm

Well, for IWD2, in my book, it was doomed from the start... As for NWN, well, I dunno what when wrong there... Probably simply because it's the first installment of Bioware making a 3D engine and they spend all their time making "neat particle effects" (I know there aren't any but it's the principle) instead of an entrhawling game...

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 7:58 pm

Daikatana wasn't very good though it was delayed by several years. :roll:

Ok, I know, a bad example.

It's relieving to know BIS has some patience with the game and not releasing it too early, full with bugs and broken promises. It'd be sad to repeat the same mistake that was done with Fallout 2, although BIS was the developer then.

Killzig · Post by **Killzig** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 8:09 pm

This should help them get that cock riding wizard into the game.

Saint_Proverbius · Post by **Saint_Proverbius** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 12:42 am

Red wrote:Well, for IWD2, in my book, it was doomed from the start... As for NWN, well, I dunno what when wrong there... Probably simply because it's the first installment of Bioware making a 3D engine and they spend all their time making "neat particle effects" (I know there aren't any but it's the principle) instead of an entrhawling game...

They used that Aurora engine in MDK2, which was released two years ago.

Spazmo · Post by **Spazmo** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 12:50 am

Then why does MDK2 look better than Neverwinter Nights?

Constipated BladeRunner · Tue Sep 03, 2002 9:01 am

And on the 8th day, God came to his computer, and played Quake, and he saw that it was good, and the developement time was not rediculous, and that when one creates 70+ 3D monsters, his monsters shall nay look as good as one who has 20.

-Games, Chapter 9, verse 3.
And so it was written that NWN feels rushed
- Games, Chapter 11, verse 1
And so it passed, that NWN was in development long before the keyboards of men nor the foul controllers of Dreamcast had known of MDK2.

Crow of Ill Omen · Post by **Crow of Ill Omen** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 4:08 pm

My wife plays Quake. She could never get the hang of UT, but scores fairly highly when playing Quake. True story

(actually, I kinda like the Quake 3 graphics and the weapons seem funky, too)

Strap · Post by **Strap** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 5:59 am

delay it all you want! bah!

i am going to buy Battlefield1942, not liohart, just go play diablo/diablo2 if you want that kinda stuff.... even though theres no dialog