CONGRATULATIONS!

Section8 · Post by **Section8** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:41 am

I must say that I've never encountered a more brutal fanbase than Fallout's. Star Wars fans are probably more fanatic, gladly swallowing whenever Lucas spills his black seed, but when it comes to anger, you guys take the cake. Hats off to you all and have some <drug of choice> on me.

Rosh · Post by **Rosh** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 7:35 am

Vikjunk wrote:I personally think we should post a poll for who we think is the stupidest fanboys and get Fallout to vote.

Fallout fanboys might be loud, but at least we aren’t sheep.

Definitely cheesed off at being lied to, teased for a long time, yanked around, etc. We've seen what kind of regard Interplay has for Fallout with half-ass patching of Fallout 2 and FOT that would make any competent programmer go eat a bullet out of respect for their trade if they thought it was "finished".
We're also not dumb enough like the Inbred Engine fanboys and get milked off by fan-created (with editor) quality games that don't deserve a full price tag. I've seen DarkStone Quests with more depth than Ass-Wind Dale.

Now, that poll doesn't have the worst by far.

1. CS Clannies. You'd better believe it. They make the old Quake clannie net-burst look TAME.
2. StarCraft fans. Self-explanatory.
3. Diablo
4. Quake/Quake II
5. DOOM III

Red · Post by **Red** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 7:49 am

I resent the inclusion of Doom in your list as it's not doom which topled the fan based vigor over it's own top and then up it's own ass but rather the clans (which were born sadly from Quake and mostly it's CTF mod and the like).

Rosh · Post by **Rosh** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 7:57 am

Red wrote:I resent the inclusion of Doom in your list as it's not doom which topled the fan based vigor over it's own top and then up it's own ass but rather the clans (which were born sadly from Quake and mostly it's CTF mod and the like).

Well, the clans is what I mean. Diablo, Quake, and some DOOM clans that are forming even before DOOM III is out are becoming annoying. Even some DOOM II clans were bad, but not as bad as Quake's deathmatch clans. I'll edit it, sorry for the mistake.

Then again, BLOOD clans did remarkably much better, they weren't that full of trash. probably because it took wits and ingenuity to kill with most of the weapons and most plain shotgunners got owned by the dynamite crews.

Constipated BladeRunner · Mon Sep 30, 2002 8:35 am

Rosh wrote: Well, the clans is what I mean.

Hippocrite?

4too · Post by **4too** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 8:43 am

This poll was executed to generate, fuzzy, feel good, AGREEMENT amongst the BIS Fanboys.

It's the only cord they know, "YES,YES,YES,YES,>>>>dear, O.K. Honey I'll take out the trash after I wash and wax your mother's SUV."

FO hardline'ers have at least a THREE cord progression that includes
variations of "maybe"(one day BIS will finally sh't and get off the pot..), "yes"(BIS is jerking my FO chain again...), and "no"(Hell No,FO3 doesn't need your stinkin' DA jumping puzzles..).

Some folks find it hard to incorporate real life struggle to achieve a true, steel hammered, compromise. Some "bitches"(the actual gender may vary- and would it offed thee if one supposes at least 3 flavors in that catagory too?),
some "bitches" have to have a constant suckle on the agreement tit
to nurture their egos through the day.

A FO hardline'er lusts for a least THREE flavors in his mama's milk,
FRENCH vanilla, DARK chocolate, and the current "drug o' choice".

AND WE WANT THE F"ING CHERRY of a
competent Quality Assured prepublication bug hunt.

Tired of doing BIS's job for them.

So FO hardline'ers have more up front and on the table when BIS croons "do you love me"...

We've seen "second best" work before.
We want a FIRST CLASS product, and we luv ol' BIS, AND THE LEGEND OF FO, enough to offer our feedback.

Thanks fo' letting me 'share'!
[SMACK-big wet one on screen!]

4too

Rosh · Post by **Rosh** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 8:48 am

Constipated BladeRunner wrote:
Rosh wrote: Well, the clans is what I mean.
Hippocrite?

I would say 'What the fuck are you talking about?", but that's pretty much a given with any of your posts.

Constipated BladeRunner · Mon Sep 30, 2002 9:07 am

Rosh wrote:
Constipated BladeRunner wrote:
Rosh wrote: Well, the clans is what I mean.
Hippocrite?
I would say 'What the fuck are you talking about?", but that's pretty much a given with any of your posts.

The clans are what I mean.
Are.

Rosh · Post by **Rosh** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 9:40 am

So I was speed typing and missed it.

How does that make me a hippocrite (sic), unless you are giving a demonstration of being a hippocrite (sic)?

Mad Max RW · Post by **Mad Max RW** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 9:41 am

This topic just inspired me to start a new discussion. Check it out at GD in a few minutes.

OnTheBounce · Post by **OnTheBounce** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 9:46 am

Section8 wrote:...gladly swallowing whenever Lucas spills his black seed...

I seem to recall someone having to scrub his eyes w/steel wool after he clicked on one of pyro's links. No?

What you saw there can not possibly compare to the visual that the above game me: some unwashed, zit-encrusted, 30-something (still living in his parents' basement and blissfully unaware that women exist anywhere but the silverscreen or the pages of certain magazines) with George Lucas' pudgy fingers tightly clasping his stringy hair; the latter gyrated his enormous midsection, heaving toward the climax of his ambition. His Jabba the Hutt-esque chin(s) grotesquely mimicking the the gyration of the mid-section...

I think I'm going to fucking puke now...

(And I hope you all join me. :mrgreen:)

OTB

Rosh · Post by **Rosh** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 9:51 am

*horf*

Red · Post by **Red** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 10:03 am

Posting sick shit is nothing new. That reminds me of my early quake days, there was this site which specialized in hosting pics of various sick accidents, like some guy accidently cutting his dick off and blleding profusely. Said site was full of variations along that theme. I wish I remembered the name of it.

The closest "popular link site" I can think of now is probably http://www.stileproject.com but it has too much legit pr0n to be offensive...

Insane-Lark · Post by **Insane-Lark** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 1:12 pm

OnTheBounce wrote:
Section8 wrote:...gladly swallowing whenever Lucas spills his black seed...

I think I'm going to fucking puke now...

(And I hope you all join me. :mrgreen:)

OTB

What a nice image.

On FO 3. I would love to see a good product bear that name but think it's more likely that we're all waiting in vain. If Lionheart sells well enough to pull the company back from past the edge of disaster, it seems more likely that we'll see LH 2 than FO 3. Ooooh yay Fallout Fantasy indeed.

I do hope that Lionheart is an intersting & engaging game but am really not all that likely to go out & buy it. I am one of those folks that really prefers turn based over real time, or at the very least a pause option, without one of these implimented (as a parent of a small child) the only time I could play is late at night.

I'll wait & hope for the unlikely release of the source code or enough of the editors for the modding, mapping community to make a go at producing quality work.

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 1:14 pm

Jeff · Post by **Jeff** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 3:25 pm

Pyro wrote:are talking about that bad boy link I posted? Or did I click on the wrong thread

A link to The Wasteland I reckon

Araanor · Post by **Araanor** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 11:08 pm

Gah. The same people are still regurgitating the same old stuff over at the BIS fora. I get dain bramage.

Rosh wrote:1. CS Clannies. You'd better believe it. They make the old Quake clannie net-burst look TAME.
2. StarCraft fans. Self-explanatory.
3. Diablo
4. Quake/Quake II
5. DOOM III

Basically the most popular Internet-games?

OnTheBounce · Post by **OnTheBounce** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 11:27 pm

Insane-Lark wrote:What a nice image.

Wasn't it, though? :mrgreen:

Insane-Lark wrote:I'll wait & hope for the unlikely release of the source code or enough of the editors for the modding, mapping community to make a go at producing quality work.

Sometimes I wonder if BIS is playing w/releasing these for two reasons:

Get certain elements of the fanbase off the collective back of the designers. (People have been wrangling for these to be released for years...)
To throw down the gauntlet at the feet of the nay-sayers, essentially a "Let's see you do better!"

Whatever the case may be, I'm sure there will be some quality material coming out...eventually. There will, however, probably be a lot of half-arsed shite right along w/it...

OTB

Saint_Proverbius · Post by **Saint_Proverbius** » Tue Oct 01, 2002 1:28 am

Insane-Lark wrote: On FO 3. I would love to see a good product bear that name but think it's more likely that we're all waiting in vain. If Lionheart sells well enough to pull the company back from past the edge of disaster, it seems more likely that we'll see LH 2 than FO 3. Ooooh yay Fallout Fantasy indeed.

I remember telling Chris Taylor, during FOT's production, that I bet we'll see IWD2 before we see Fallout 3 from BIS. He said he'd put money on it that we'd see Fallout 3 first. Wish I'd taken him up on that bet too since it looks like I was right on that.

4too · Post by **4too** » Tue Oct 01, 2002 12:04 pm

Will BIS be stuck on the drifting D + D barge, unable to turn their production around, when the "next big thing" raises it's shining face above the horizon?

If the cycling tides of genres swirls true, and the next "killer" application looks a lot like FO 3, would BIS miss the launch, and be lost in some other pirate's wake?

If BIS gets really proficient in "quick and dirty" production, wouldn't they cash in on some lucrative MOVIE title? AND, or, go 100% console? Once
one injects 'jumpin' puzzles' (DA) can one ever go back....... hooked fo' life.

BIS has done more to foster doubt about their intentions and abilities, (and integrity), than to build a mature relationship with the FO fanbase. Maybe I missed a lot of the historical details and PR flack, but it's only been recently that their statements have had any ring of economic truth. Or, maybe by following the NONE making of FO 3 I have learned something of the dynamics of the PC game BIZ...or BIS.... staying afloat on a leaky boat....... or rudderless barge............

4too