Can Adult-Oriented Games Sell? Using GTA3 as an example.

Meths · Post by **Meths** » Mon Sep 16, 2002 5:02 am

Forgive me if i don't know the subject well, but i don't see any problem here. In many countries just like mine, adult-oriented games sell much better. Circled 18 sign at the bottom of the box mostly means that it's kick-ass game not for pussies.

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Mon Sep 16, 2002 9:13 pm

Meths wrote:Forgive me if i don't know the subject well, but i don't see any problem here. In many countries just like mine, adult-oriented games sell much better. Circled 18 sign at the bottom of the box mostly means that it's kick-ass game not for pussies.

This can be true, but the problem is, in some countries games can be banned or censored(I don't think much censoring happens anymore though) because of the content. In some countries, I'm not talking about USA, rating can vary from just a recommendation to a total ban, and unfortunately it's getting more strict mostly because of recent 'accidents' like school shootings etc. Sadly, politicians in many countries in Europe are demanding more stricter rules. So the rating can have a notable effect on game sales worldwide.

SaintP wrote:Making it teen rated would require they leave out things like the Fallout style drugs, Vas. They would most likely also have to remove children and various other innocents that you could kill on a whim.

Okay, but it could be possible to make an in-game parental lock, like changing 'drugs' to 'chems' and remove gory death animations. It's another thing if this feature would lower the rating... and it wouldn't remove children and other innocents though, which I think is a must-have in a non-linear RPG world like Fallout.

Saint_Proverbius · Post by **Saint_Proverbius** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 1:22 am

I don't think just removing the word, "drugs" would do it. After all, things like Buff-Out and stuff still look like drugs, they have addiction rates, and so on.

Som Guy · Post by **Som Guy** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 2:23 am

besides in most parts of the games they called them chems anyways.

MF · Post by MF » Wed Sep 18, 2002 12:36 am

Vas, it's mostly Germany. I don't know what it's like in your country, but here, and I believe the same goes for Belgium and England, nothing really gets 'banned'.

As a side note to that. It's funny how Germans have the biggest ISO sharing scene when it comes to their 'banned' games. Great move by their government. Everyone gets their games, it's just not done through tax-generating ways anymore!

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Wed Sep 18, 2002 4:14 pm

Yes, but knowing the recent trend I don't want to imagine what it's like after 5 years. Either the game industry reacts(more likely) or the Governments go for stricter laws. Apocalypse is nigh.

Saint_Proverbius · Post by **Saint_Proverbius** » Sat Sep 21, 2002 1:36 am

MF,

Yes, that's totally true. Of course, when you open the flood gates on warezing like their government has with their silly laws, you're starting a bad trend for not only the banned games but all software. It may start out with, "I'll only warez the banned games", but once it becomes so easy to do it's going to happen a lot more.

Constipated BladeRunner · Sat Sep 21, 2002 4:09 am

Gateway-warzeing?

Pastorius · Post by **Pastorius** » Sat Sep 28, 2002 1:00 am

Daikatana sold 7,000 copies??
Maybe John Romero himself bought 6990 copies and his fanboys bought the other 10

wheres my arm? · Post by **wheres my arm?** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 8:29 am

it makes you wonder....that all i have to say... :roll:

Snake · Post by **Snake** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 3:57 pm

Pastorius wrote:Daikatana sold 7,000 copies??
Maybe John Romero himself bought 6990 copies and his fanboys bought the other 10

rofl

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Mr Carrot · Post by **Mr Carrot** » Sun Nov 03, 2002 12:54 am

Nothing gets "banned" in england, carmageddon was made to have green blood though....... thats about it.

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Sun Nov 03, 2002 3:12 am

Well, most games are not made too offensive nowadays. Most FPS's get a Mature rating, but there's already some FPS's without blood and violent death animations. That happened rarely 5 years ago.
Basically all 'offensive' materials are left out, like messing with religions, racism etc. Hitman 2 is getting a lot of critique and being removed from some shops, and I don't think the publisher is happy with that. On the other hand, it could work as advertisement too. :roll:
Because of recent events, games are being critiqued a lot, at least here. I fear that banning or censoring games will become reality. That's the last thing I'd want, as games(especially RPGs) offer you an option to do whatever you want that wouldn't be possible in reality.