Interview with the Day Of The Reckoning Folks

Spazmo · Post by **Spazmo** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 4:34 pm

I'm sorry... did they say "no turn based crap"? Are they actually saying they want to remain loyal to Fallout by removing "turn based crap"?

I hope they got smoten mightily.

Rosh · Post by **Rosh** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 4:44 pm

I'll be honest. This makes Dolo's attention-whoring his 'Fallout 2 1/2' mod for 9 months or more (and the ridiculous "features list") look very tame by comparison.

He was even so nice as to thank us for giving him an excuse to not do the work, after everyone bothered to follow his attention-whoring.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 4:48 pm

I loved that dev(?) that said Fallout has a 70's/80's comic setting...

Rosh · Post by **Rosh** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 4:55 pm

Dan wrote:I loved that dev(?) that said Fallout has a 70's/80's comic setting...

No different than the idiot that posted some BS about Kevlar and other crap at NMA.

Check it out, if you dare.

Mad Max RW · Post by **Mad Max RW** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 5:03 pm

They really should just remove Fallout from the title of their mod.

Rosh · Post by **Rosh** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 5:19 pm

Mad Max RW, that's about the best piece of advice anyone could ever give them, and the best thing they could do. Otherwise, they're just name-dropping like a shitload of their "features" without any idea of the setting or continuity.

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 5:54 pm

Well they almost decided to move there forums because of me...

And I already got one of the modders to leave the project because he realised they were making a shitty mod (I think)

The mod will probably fall apart if I keep annoying them, but it's getting a bit boring. But if one kid can change half the stuff in the mod and almost make them move forums, I doubt the mod will go far.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 6:03 pm

Rosh wrote:
Dan wrote:I loved that dev(?) that said Fallout has a 70's/80's comic setting...
No different than the idiot that posted some BS about Kevlar and other crap at NMA.

Check it out, if you dare.

The moron wrote:
crossbow
longbow
compound bow
flamming arrows
explosive crossbow bolts (thank you Reign of Fire)
poison crossbow bolts
poisoned arrows
a couple swords (maybe one Asian and one European sword)

It's one of the reasons I'm afraid to visit the NMA boards nowadays...
There seem to be an alarming number of idiots (see above).

Rosh · Post by **Rosh** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 6:42 pm

Dan, you forgot the 6-shot rocket launcher from Unreal Tournament and the kevlar.

Pastorius · Post by **Pastorius** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 7:44 pm

Oh my god..."No turn based crap"???? It's worse than I thought!

Mad Max RW · Post by **Mad Max RW** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 7:46 pm

They don't have to change the content of their mod, and telling them to do so is annoying. Hell, it might be good if they finish it. The best thing they can do is simply rename it to Day of the Reckoning. Leave out Fallout. Not only would they keep the crazy bastards of this community from invading their forums, but they won't have to worry about breaking any copyrights with Black Isle. There certainly aren't enough good post-apoc games, and they might actually get more support if they try to make one.

Right now I'm looking at DotR as a post apoc FPS with elements borrowed from Fallout. Hopefully the dev team will wise up and see the same thing.

Rosh · Post by **Rosh** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 9:22 pm

Mad Max RW wrote:They don't have to change the content of their mod, and telling them to do so is annoying. Hell, it might be good if they finish it.

Spoken as someone who hasn't really taken a look at the material in question? Quite seriously, if they want to call it Fallout and shovel in stuff like MP3 players and that sort of thing (rather than something that would fit into the setting like possibly a "mini-vinyl player"), what happens when there is a new wave of idiots flooding into the fansites and the official BIS forums, giving a mass of voices that they want "al dat kewl stuff dey put in that Breed Falout game"?

It's not going to be pretty, and I bet you're glad you don't have to deal with it.

The best thing they can do is simply rename it to Day of the Reckoning. Leave out Fallout. Not only would they keep the crazy bastards of this community from invading their forums, but they won't have to worry about breaking any copyrights with Black Isle.

Unfortunately, they wouldn't have anything if they took out the Fallout material they bastardized together, because that's all the mod is. Little creativity or originality, instead being nothing more than a hit parade of Fallout figures.

There certainly aren't enough good post-apoc games, and they might actually get more support if they try to make one.

Yes, they might get more support if they showed they had some clue of what they were working of. This has all the making of a bad fanfic translated into a mod.

Right now I'm looking at DotR as a post apoc FPS with elements borrowed from Fallout. Hopefully the dev team will wise up and see the same thing.

No, you need to take a closer look. It's merely name-dropping with some hackneyed story at this point. I seriously doubt this mod will get off the ground, because it looks like the modmakers are just taking names from Fallout games and throwing them together and adding in "kewL" modern things. Beat Lords, Jet, etc. many years before FOT or even when Jet was invented? Somehow I think there's very little original material there aside from "x to y because of z", change those variables to whatever Fallout and some modern day nouns and you've got the basic premise of the mod.

Mad Max RW · Post by **Mad Max RW** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 9:46 pm

I don't really care what the hell they put in the mod. It can have all the reavers, robots, plasma rifles, dragons, elves, nazis, and whatever the hell else as long as they don't use the Fallout name to advertise it. You guys are too busy nitpicking and trying to force them to change this that and the other thing when you can simply ask for a name change to clarify the game as a post apoc mod for Breed inspired by Fallout (among other things).

Most of us never heard of Breed before this. It's not like they're gonna get a huge fanbase and go retail or anything.

Rosh · Post by **Rosh** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 9:49 pm

Mad Max RW wrote:You guys are too busy nitpicking and trying to force them to change this that and the other thing when you can simply ask for a name change to clarify the game as a post apoc mod for Breed inspired by Fallout (among other things).

Well, you seem up to date.....

Mad Max RW · Post by **Mad Max RW** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 9:55 pm

Well come on. Check the forums. There's people calling them "dipshit", "dumbass", "morons", "retards", and whatever else. That's fun and everything, but the dev team isn't gonna take any real suggestions very seriously. The self proclaimed "pillars" of this community feel they have somekind of ownership over the Fallout license. If you really want to see the mod disappear report them to Black Isle or whoever actually owns the license. I don't know all the details to this whole ridiculous thing mainly because it's a joke. Fuckit, keep dwelling on insignificant shit and get nothing done.

Rosh · Post by **Rosh** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 10:02 pm

Mad Max RW wrote:Well come on. Check the forums. There's people calling them "dipshit", "dumbass", "morons", "retards", and whatever else.

Probably because they scoffed at the requests to come to some continuity, etc. Their main dev is a self-proclaimed ass.

That's fun and everything, but the dev team isn't gonna take any real suggestions very seriously.

They didn't listen to much until it took some vocalizing on many parts to get it through to them. Now they are "We don't have a clue...can someone give us one and a lot of help?"

The self proclaimed "pillars" of this community feel they have somekind of ownership over the Fallout license.

Evident Clue: Missing, presumed dead.

If you really want to see the mod disappear report them to Black Isle or whoever actually owns the license.

Evident Clue: DECEASED, lack of water.

I don't know all the details to this whole ridiculous thing mainly because it's a joke.

Evident Clue: 6 feet under and pushing up daiseys.

Fuckit, keep dwelling on insignificant shit and get nothing done.

Hey, try to get an idea about what's going on before you start in cluelessly, okay? You might not look like such an idiot afterwards.

Rex Exitium · Post by **Rex Exitium** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 10:04 pm

Yeah, no more turn based crap. Why, there goes what Fallout is all about right out the window. What's the point of having a Fallout without SPECIAL, or Turn Based mode? These intellectual gimps might as well just call it "Mad Max: The Shitty Mod Version".

Oh, and Moby really sucks. I can't believe they have Moby on their to-play list. Of all the good electronic bands out there, they have to pick one that sold the most records (to the lame mainstream people, the same people who think Britney Spears has actual talent.) Tsk.

Mad Max RW · Post by **Mad Max RW** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 10:14 pm

Rosh, don't take this personally, but you are the biggest fucking blowhard in this "community". Wait, take it personally. I'm sure you have a real ball out of writing 3 page long mails to each of the developers explaining why your opinion is final and all knowing. Let's continue beating a dead horse until it's a thin paste.

We all know this mod isn't gonna last. There's hardly any point being on their asses all the time. It's like constantly yelling at a 2 month old because he can't read yet. Or telling a guy without legs to walk. It's not gonna happen. Their mod isn't gonna magically become Fallout 3: the perfect 2d isometric, SPECIAL, 1950s, post nuclear, some mutants, old stuff, things, and made especially for the 2 or 3 people who memorized every pixel in every town in Fallout 1 and 2.

Now dissect the living hell out of this post. I'm sure it's your favorite past time.

Oh, and I'm in no way defending the mod or the developers. I think they're dumbasses and the whole thing is a stupid idea, but I'm not about to invade their boards and act like a little whiny bitch about it.

Red · Post by **Red** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 10:23 pm

NMA forum twit wrote:night vision googles.

I'd like a game with those.

I already made all my needed statements when I talked about that Unreal2k3 Fallout mod when U2k3 wasn't even out. Now that's even worst as we've not seen any work from them (at least the NWN mod team made some nice little renders for us to enjoy and saw that at least they know how to render nice boxes); and we have no idea how the hell the breed engine will work out, not to mention if it'll even BE modifiable..

I think Rosh pretty much covered the content part so I needn't add much about it, however I'd like to point out the "log book" explaining the beginning of the story and how many typos and grammatical errors it contains. I don't really think "their triing mak it lok lik teh guy writtign teh log bok cant even spel is name write" quite frankly.

Rosh · Post by **Rosh** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 10:23 pm

Mad Max RW wrote:Rosh, don't take this personally, but you are the biggest fucking blowhard in this "community". Wait, take it personally. I'm sure you have a real ball out of writing 3 page long mails to each of the developers explaining why your opinion is final and all knowing. Let's continue beating a dead horse until it's a thin paste.

So you're bitching for the hell of it, rather than have the possibility that the modmakers might take a second look at what they are doing and improve upon it. Did that ever occur to you before you started your whining? No, it didn't. You're like the stupid shits who said to not make presumptuous judgements on Fallout Tactics until it was out, nevermind that a lot of the commentary and nitpicking before it was done led to the game becoming more than what it was slated to be.

I bet you didn't know that, did you, dipshit?

Now dissect the living hell out of this post. I'm sure it's your favorite past time.

Come on and post some more whining, clueless shit, you do it perfectly.

Oh, and I'm in no way defending the mod or the developers. I think they're dumbasses and the whole thing is a stupid idea, but I'm not about to invade their boards and act like a little whiny bitch about it.

Yet you're going to go into the faces of people who are waving the bullshit flag at them. You know, there's a reason why people post a bit of opposition, is to see if the modmakers either fold or improve. Dolo, the attention-whore, folded. As news sites, we have to decide or not to follow these projects, and see how good they are or how serious they are. Which is exactly what we are doing, rather than being jerked around by a mapmaking attention-whore like Dolo for more than 9 months.

Thank you for playing, your ass is on top of your head as a hat. You have my permission to whine, sulk, snivel, or kvetch in your manner of choice.