F2 Mapper...

Razorflower · Post by **Razorflower** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:53 pm

Forgive me if this has been addressed, I only did a quick scan. On to the question...

I gather at this point the Mapper is little more than a map "viewer", not an "editor"? I.e., you can't actually play maps made in Mapper?

Thanks,

Joel 'Razorflower' Bailey

Lead Artist - Synergy Studios

Red · Post by **Red** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 11:34 pm

Dims' mapper's a real mapper now, with some issues granted, but it's a mapper, yes.

Razorflower · Post by **Razorflower** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 11:47 pm

My thanks for humoring me. Is this the very same Mapper available for download at Duck and Cover?

I was wondering as the plug next to it states "...view Fallout maps (editing functions not available just yet). You need to have it installed in the c:/mapper directory."

Thanks,

Joel 'Razorflower' Bailey

Lead Artist - Synergy Studios

Odin · Post by **Odin** » Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:44 am

Razorflower wrote:My thanks for humoring me. Is this the very same Mapper available for download at Duck and Cover?

I was wondering as the plug next to it states "...view Fallout maps (editing functions not available just yet). You need to have it installed in the c:/mapper directory."

The mapper is located in the mod util section of DAC, but I'm not sure if it's the latest one.. Dims site is the main site for the mapper.

Red · Post by **Red** » Thu Feb 06, 2003 12:33 pm

The latest one is version 0.97c (at the time I'm writing this anyway) and can be found at www.hot.ee/fallout

I'm not sure which version DaC has on it's site anymore.

Helios2000 · Post by **Helios2000** » Fri Feb 07, 2003 4:46 pm

Hi
I have made a new map but when I modify the Inventory from a cupboard or anything Fallout crashed when I entering the map.
Is this my blame or a problem from the mapper??

Jargo · Post by **Jargo** » Fri Feb 07, 2003 9:01 pm

Well, you ned to set value of offset [0x4C]unknown10 in container object to 0x0000000A and it shuld be fine.

Helios2000 · Post by **Helios2000** » Sat Feb 08, 2003 1:25 am

Thanks for the information!

Helios2000 · Post by **Helios2000** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 2:40 am

Hi
I have another problem with my map.
When I exit the map and come again Fallout load the original Map and not my new Map.
Is the script the problem or must I edit the map file with an Hex Editor.
And who, was I must do modify?
(Sorry for my bad english and the many questions)

Red · Post by **Red** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 3:36 am

I've never actually tested this however I think the map you select to exit to is in fact stored in one of the fields of the exit's properties.

It's to be noted that scritps can override this information but this should rarely happen.

Jargo · Post by **Jargo** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 10:45 am

what map are you editing ?

Helios2000 · Post by **Helios2000** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 5:28 pm

The navarro Map.
I donÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t override navarro.I make the editing map as new map into the game.
I can enter the new Map but when I change the level he load the navarro map.

Jargo · Post by **Jargo** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 7:12 pm

Your problem may be that enter/exit grid's are set to oryginal map(they shuld lead to new map).

Helios2000 · Post by **Helios2000** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 7:55 pm

How I modify that?

Jargo · Post by **Jargo** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 8:46 pm

if you enter newly created map from a map named (for example) ecddor.map then you must open it (ecddor.map) in mapper end change
offset's
[0x58]MapID
[0x5C]Player position
in this green layer on the floor to new values.
MapID is number of your map i maps.txt
Player positon means position of player when entering map.

Helios2000 · Post by **Helios2000** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 12:26 am

Yes nice!!!
It work but how is it with the elevators?
The different Levels I can modify but not the map id.

Red · Post by **Red** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 2:45 am

elevators usually work with maps with three levels... So the map ID probably stays the same (or 0, I didn't check), the important part being that you need to specify the proper location where you end up.

Jargo · Post by **Jargo** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 9:42 am

What is the ID number of this elevator object.
I need to know if in properties of this object you have offset's
[0x58] and [0x5C]

Red · Post by **Red** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 1:50 pm

I have no idea and they change depending on maps. Usually I beleive it's scripts which trigger teleports. Scripts can also be found in tiles (such as the goo in the Toxic Caves), though I doubt elevetors use it as they'd require a differnt script (thus tile) for each map -- or a convulted script that covers all maps.

Anyway the SAD base uses a special script in itself. Normal elevators I don't know as I've never looked into it.

Helios2000 · Post by **Helios2000** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 1:13 am

Mhm
I know by ladders is so that the offset 58 is for the map ID and 5C is for the player positions but by elevators is it very difficult because the Script is only for the doors from elevators and offsets absent.
That mean that the elevators donÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t navigate by Scripts and donÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t by offsets.

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