starcraft 2 was just announced

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:12 am

What about macro-management?

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:06 pm

#1. FUCK YOU
#2. All your bases are belong to me
#3. ZERG RUSH!
#4.....

what else?

jetbaby · Post by **jetbaby** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:23 pm

Insults involving the words "OH SHIT I HEAR THE ICE CREAM TRUCK!!!!!111!1111oneone" and "gay."

Kraszu · Post by **Kraszu** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:38 am

Frater Perdurabo wrote: However, Terran are underpowered. like 90% of all the top Starcraft players are Zerg / Protoss, there's very few Terran at the top. especially because Terrans are relatively underpowered at lategame.

You have no idea what you are talking about KeSPA rating (based on important korean leagues and wcg):

KeSPA rankings 01/07/2007

http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage ... c_id=55870

1 | sAviOr CJ Entus 2,068.0 (No Change)
2 | Bisu MBCGame HERO 1,602.9 (1)
3 | NaDa Pantech EX 1,532.5 (1)
4 | Stork Samsung KHAN 1,487.0 (11)
5 | HwaSin STX SouL 1,339.9 (No Change)
6 | IriS CJ Entus 1,330.5 (No Change)
7 | firebathero Samsung KHAN 1,254.0 (5)
8 | Sea[Shield] MBCGame HERO 1,086.5 (1)
9 | Light MBCGame HERO 1,040.7 (5)
10| YellOw[NamE] OnGameNet SPARKYZ 973.0 (4)
11| GoRush SK Telecom T1 922.5 (7)
12| Jaedong Lecaf Oz 902.0 (1)
13| Much[gm] CJ Entus 900.8 (5)
14| UpMagiC eSTRO 883.8 (3)
15| XellOs CJ Entus 879.8 (4)
16| free[gm] Hanbitstars 875.3 (7)
17| GGPlay Hanbitstars 874.9 (5)
18| PuSan MBCGame HERO 857.8 (8)
19| iloveoov SK Telecom T1 849.0 (4)
20| SiLvEr Pantech EX 828.1 (11)
21| JulyZerg SK Telecom T1 796.8 (4)
22| AnyTime Lecaf Oz 776.0 (1)
23| Nal_rA KTF MagicNs 768.9 (3)
24| Midas SK Telecom T1 764.3 (2)
25| InteR.Calm STX SouL 703.9 (1)
26| DarkElf CJ Entus 699.0 (3)
27| Casy OnGameNet SPARKYZ 678.8 (14)
28| Reach KTF MagicNs 639.0 (NEW)
29| fOrGG_V Lecaf Oz 604.1 (NEW)
30| By.Flash KTF MagicNs 588.8 (NEW)

Race Breakdown
T - 14
Z - 8
P - 8

You can check any and T is strongest on average actually.

Dark swarm is strong but it is late in the game and science vessels are very strong also.

Ling rush is not all-in actually it often leads to interesting and long games, only weak player get killed by it, it is not unstoppable strategy and it require strategy if your rush don't kill opponent (99% of the time on decent level).

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:07 pm

Kraszu wrote:1 | sAviOr CJ Entus 2,068.0 (No Change)
2 | Bisu MBCGame HERO 1,602.9 (1)
3 | NaDa Pantech EX 1,532.5 (1)
4 | Stork Samsung KHAN 1,487.0 (11)
5 | HwaSin STX SouL 1,339.9 (No Change)
6 | IriS CJ Entus 1,330.5 (No Change)
7 | firebathero Samsung KHAN 1,254.0 (5)
8 | Sea[Shield] MBCGame HERO 1,086.5 (1)
9 | Light MBCGame HERO 1,040.7 (5)
10| YellOw[NamE] OnGameNet SPARKYZ 973.0 (4)
11| GoRush SK Telecom T1 922.5 (7)
12| Jaedong Lecaf Oz 902.0 (1)
13| Much[gm] CJ Entus 900.8 (5)
14| UpMagiC eSTRO 883.8 (3)
15| XellOs CJ Entus 879.8 (4)
16| free[gm] Hanbitstars 875.3 (7)
17| GGPlay Hanbitstars 874.9 (5)
18| PuSan MBCGame HERO 857.8 (8)
19| iloveoov SK Telecom T1 849.0 (4)
20| SiLvEr Pantech EX 828.1 (11)
21| JulyZerg SK Telecom T1 796.8 (4)
22| AnyTime Lecaf Oz 776.0 (1)
23| Nal_rA KTF MagicNs 768.9 (3)
24| Midas SK Telecom T1 764.3 (2)
25| InteR.Calm STX SouL 703.9 (1)
26| DarkElf CJ Entus 699.0 (3)
27| Casy OnGameNet SPARKYZ 678.8 (14)
28| Reach KTF MagicNs 639.0 (NEW)
29| fOrGG_V Lecaf Oz 604.1 (NEW)
30| By.Flash KTF MagicNs 588.8 (NEW)

Nerds. All of them.

RAK · Post by **RAK** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:16 pm

Just a sentiment that I wish to state: I've never played Starcraft multiplayer, and I don't think that I'm going to soon. Why? The apparent ubiquity of rushes in the game. Just doesn't wash with me, because I tend to like to stress the use of a small number of elite units which would beat out a larger number of relatively untrained units. For that reason, I prefer tactical strategies, where you only have a limited number of units, and you have to preserve them (Total War/Ground Control). Sure, the single player games of build-up strategies often kick ass - I particularly like the original Command & Conquer for that. However, I doubt I'd have much fun playing the multiplayer games of any of these.

Cthulhugoat · Post by **Cthulhugoat** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:19 am

RAK wrote:(Total War/Ground Control).

Yikes! Another RTS with no resource management fan!

Ever tried Myth?

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:46 am

Myth was crazy good.

Blargh · Post by **Blargh** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:12 am

CASUALTY.

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:25 am

Molotov dwarves for the win.

Superhaze · Post by **Superhaze** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:46 pm

Total War was handed down to SEGA by God himself.

Mechanurgist · Post by **Mechanurgist** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:07 pm

Koki · Post by **Koki** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:34 pm

Superhaze wrote:Total War was handed down to SEGA by God himself.

That's why it kinda sucks, like Xenu sucks

Superhaze · Post by **Superhaze** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:15 pm

No. That is why it is the greatest strategy game ever to be released outside of my head.

Your polish...

RAK · Post by **RAK** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:30 pm

Yikes! Another RTS with no resource management fan! icon_drunk Ever tried Myth?

No, I haven't, but it looks pretty interesting to me. I had no clue that it was developed by Bungie until I took a look at it more closely.

Koki · Post by **Koki** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:25 am

Superhaze wrote:No. That is why it is the greatest strategy game ever to be released outside of my head.

Your polish...

My polish what?

Total War is so unrealistic and simplified the fact you call it strategy game is quite amusing.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:53 pm

Mechanurgist wrote:

:haha:

edhead · Post by **edhead** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:00 pm

Koki wrote:Total War is so unrealistic and simplified the fact you call it strategy game is quite amusing.

Starcraft, however, is the pinnacle of realism, complexity and strategic thinking in computer games. Yeah right.

Koki · Post by **Koki** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:06 pm

edhead wrote:Starcraft, however, is the pinnacle of realism, complexity and strategic thinking in computer games. Yeah right.

That's why no one calls it strategy game, idiot.

edhead · Post by **edhead** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:12 pm

Fuck yeah! Then what do you call a strategy game? Cossacks?

Or do only grand strategy games like EU, CK and HOI deserve the name?