Liberalism in America

Apollo · Post by **Apollo** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:53 pm

Iraq is hardly in comparison to vietnam

1) how many soldiers have died in vietnam in the first three months, and how many in the second persian gulf? plus the media is actually giving good coverage on iraq this time around

2) The same ocupational problems with iraq, happened in post ww2 germany and japan as well

3) if canada was a superpower, they would be doing the exact same thing if in our situation. try getting some towel head to kill three thousand of your country men and women and children, losing two of your most famous national icons, make a big hurt on your economy, and then getting a bunch of fuckhead nations saying big deal in your face you little prick. it aint fun you fucking commie swell guy

4) because of canada's open door policy, we can be hit with another 9/11 like attack. see the reason why we dont guard our borders up there too much is becuase we "thought" we could trust you, but fuck, you aint trustable at all.

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD · Wed Oct 22, 2003 3:48 pm

where the fuck are you getting this open door policy bullshit?
our immigration board has steped up its testing to equal the US you remedial retard. the only time you dont need a passport is if you come in from the US fuckwit. if you come from any other country you need a passport.
i dont know where you keep getting this but no terrorist attack in american history has been caused by anyone canada has let in. you let in the terrorists who did it so go fuck off and die.

US trained bin laden to terrorize communists and it turned around and bit them in the ass so how is that even remotely canadas fault you slut?
the US also built up saddam so i guess that war is canadas fault too.

Slave_Master · Post by **Slave_Master** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 3:54 pm

US trained bin laden to terrorize communists

Bullshit. There were two different groups funded to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. Fundamentalist Muslims, financed by Saudi Arabia, and Afghani citizens funded by the CIA. Bin Ladin was of the former, he never came into contact with any CIA agent, and he has confirmed that. Get your fucking facts straight.

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD · Wed Oct 22, 2003 3:57 pm

ok slave would you perfer id put the US contributed to training bin laden?

Slave_Master · Post by **Slave_Master** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:03 pm

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD wrote:ok slave would you perfer id put the US contributed to training bin laden?

But they didn't. Bin Ladin and his men were funded and trained by the Saudis, not the US. Like I said, UBL had no contact with any CIA agent.

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD · Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:08 pm

yah but you cant honestly tell me you think the US and the saudis have been friends for decades without an instance of a little cash flow towards a little communist removal from afganistan for their mutual benefit.

Slave_Master · Post by **Slave_Master** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:18 pm

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD wrote:yah but you cant honestly tell me you think the US and the saudis have been friends for decades without an instance of a little cash flow towards a little communist removal from afganistan for their mutual benefit.

Why would we do that when we were already funding Afghani restistance groups?

Apollo · Post by **Apollo** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:54 pm

Yeah you fuckwit mandalorian. go kill yourself. first of all, the canadian immigration shit was a test run by some people in the media to see how well your shit is. well you failed you panzy. and stop making up shit about bin gaydin and how we supposedly helped them. spread your propaganda elsewhere you shit for brains. and i never said canada was responsible for such and attack "yet" learn how to fucking read, you cocksucking commie bastard. or at least retard your remark.

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD · Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:20 pm

oooo i feel some hostility from this useless nazi scum. why dont you go cry in your cornflakes and stop using 10 year old data and shit your highschool gym teacher said about canadian immigration.

where do you think bin laden and the afganistan rebels got their weapons and intellegence from? US and saudi now fuck off and die.

Slave_Master · Post by **Slave_Master** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:25 pm

where do you think bin laden and the afganistan rebels got their weapons and intellegence from? US and saudi now fuck off and die.

Notice the United States AND Saudi Arabia. There were two different rebel factions. The US NEVER funded bin Ladin or al-Qaida. I mean Jesus, if a CIA agent contacted UBL he'd be killed. UBL kind of hates Americans, if you didn't notice.

Apollo · Post by **Apollo** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:45 pm

Mandalorian, first of all, we didn't help bin laden, second, its data from last summer. as for us, we failed miserably too, that is until 9/11, then we started to get our shit together, its still ok at best, but hell, we are actually trying, if your nation got hit, and we were the ones that got by, would you like it if we said hell, go ahead, come into our country, cross our borders, and attack one of our longtime allies.

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD · Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:52 pm

theoretical questions like that dont work because there is no purpose in attacking canada. its not like we would react and show that we cant stop them.

Apollo · Post by **Apollo** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:00 pm

we can and will stop them. they hate us becuase of our presence in the middle east, yet when kuwait needed us for thier war vs iraq, there were like please help us. like i said, they want us to take care of everything, without asking for anything in return, yet if it was them, they would want something, or everything in return.

Alphawulf · Post by **Alphawulf** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:02 pm

Saudi Arabia has heavy financial ties to the U.S., we keep Saudi Arabia an oligarchy cause it's easier for us to deal with in our favor. And this war in Iraq was never needed and will only make more people hate us and more people willing to become terrorists.. Bush lied to us, he lied to the world. He might not have known he lied, because everyone knows he's not the shiniest penny in the fountain, but he still lied.

Exp. of Iraqi 'Incident'

U.S. soldiers place cardboard boxes on the road to act as a 'millitary road block'. An Iraqi man and his family just drive over the cardboard, because it's a fuckin row of carboard boxes that some kids could've made. U.S. soldiers shoot said car killin the man, his wife, and his family. Threat eliminated.

There are many other incident like this, but it's not the army's fault, they're trained to kill not protect. It's Bush's fault because he's a fuckin idiot. We're killing inocent civilians all the time, killing their friends and families isn't gonna make people like us more, especially when their friends and families are innocent.

Apollo · Post by **Apollo** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:05 pm

Once again, that is JUST the bad news from a democrat. get over it, we are there, we arent slaughthering innocent people on purpose, or in masses, we arent directly targeting innocents or landmarks. plus, is there any proof of what you said?

Alphawulf · Post by **Alphawulf** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:08 pm

Umm yeah there is, it's called journalism and videotape. Don't start talking about your liberal media bias bull. Where the fuck did I say we were slaughtering them on purpose or at all? I simply said we're not trained to handle stuff like this and we didn't need to go there in the first place, and our reason for going there seems to be a lie, and it costs a shitload of money.

They got a video of an Iraqi man just standing on the sidewalk of a market and then some americans just come out and shoot this guy who's ten feet away from a camera crew.

I don't like to argue about things like liberal media bias, because that's what hard right-wing people all say and their followers follow suit.

Apollo · Post by **Apollo** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:11 pm

ok then what is your sorce. huh? or did you make it up? and once again i will state a fact, things in post war iraq, are mirroring those in post ww2 japan and germany. yet you all seem to want us to fail. what happens when we are gone? huh? terrorist target their own for christ sakes, what makes you think you are safe, you call me ignorant, yet i accept the fact that i am not safe, or probably will never be, i accept the fact that our nation if full of shit, you just seem to catch me in topics i support.

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD · Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:13 pm

Apollo wrote:Once again, that is JUST the bad news from a democrat. get over it, we are there, we arent slaughthering innocent people on purpose, or in masses, we arent directly targeting innocents or landmarks. plus, is there any proof of what you said?

does that not sound like something that nazis in poland would say during ww2

Alphawulf · Post by **Alphawulf** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:13 pm

The source is FRONTLINE, it's a well respected journalism show. I didn't make it up, unlike stuff like Nigeria's selling Iraq plutonium and they're making nukes as we speak. The CIA told bush this was bull about a week before his speach, but Bush still seemed to forget it was in there.

Apollo · Post by **Apollo** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:16 pm

the british made that up, we went along. funny, frontline is british too. hmm..... and yes that does sound like something a nazi would say, as well as commies you commie, but we have truth to it. you don't have family in iraq do you? so stfu cuz i do. well did, my dad's buddy is still there, but my dad will be going back in two weeks.

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