The Firearms Thread.

[Stalagmite]

The last place you would ever find me working in or around is a fucking ghetto, thanks. I hope it was worth it for you though, filled with all excitement and adventure you dreamed of. No fucking Ghettos here thank fuck.

And yet you think to judge. Amazing.

Oh dear. You really are an uptight bastard, aren't you? I've heard all about the ghettos, and I'm not impressed, I am in fact thankful I'm living somewhere where that kind of influence is far and away.

[Junktown Commando]

Junktown, its not a matter of municipality when you're comparing a town in Virginia to Washington D.C. One is under state jurisdiction and the other under federal.

Two cities. Two opposite sets of rules. Two opposite results.

The history lecture is about a piece of land that belonged to Virginia about 250 years ago - trust me its not apart of Virginia any more than Washington State is.

Not that it particularly matters now (since I realized my mistake after the fact), my original purpose was that the unnamed town in Virginia was essentially part of WDC (right on each others borders)- you can’t tell where one began and the other ended.

The federal government can only have absolute control over D.C. because its a federal district, anywhere else around it belongs to the states and don't give a fuck what the federal government does unless its explicitly enforcing national laws.

Well, actually they do- If the Feds cut the purse strings, the cities could go under (LA is a perfect example). But ya, this municipality in VA (or GA I guess) took the opposite direction of the Feds, and now I know they’ve had NO murders in 25 years (that’s a quarter century). That’s kinda impressive.

Oh dear. You really are an uptight bastard, aren't you? I've heard all about the ghettos, and I'm not impressed, I am in fact thankful I'm living somewhere where that kind of influence is far and away.

And you should probably stay there.

ANYWAYS…
In an attempt to get the thread back ON-TOPIC, here’s a few I happen to know a little bit about.

Bond Arms .410 Bore Derringer: This handy little tool is ideal in the event your position is being overrun by skin jobs, or a buddy has been bitten. Manufactured by Bond Arms, Granbury, TX. It is single action, and fairly simple to operate. Perfect in case you run out of ammo with everything else. This particular derringer is heavier than most of it's type, possibly due to the trigger guard. Many other brands make such pistols, in a multitude of calibers, they operate similarly and are of similar size.
Caliber: .410 bore shot shell and .45 Colt
Capacity: 2 shells.
Action: Single Action
Weight: 20 oz.
Barrel Length: 3 Inches
Overall Length: 5 Inches

Medusa Model 47 Revolver: There are many things that make this weapon great. Things like match grade parts, parts manufactured from airframe/space frame grade steel and last but certainly not least the ability to shoot over ONE HUNDRED AND FOUR DIFFERENT ROUNDS, twenty five of which are very prevalent in the USA. It will shoot anything in the 9mm/.38/.357/5.5mm range except .357 SIG (a .40 bullet tapered to .357), some of the most talked-about ammo types for Zed heads. If you click on the picture to the left, it is linked to the Popular Mechanics page that will allay all of your fears and explain how it works. The biggest problem I have found so far is it's price: currently listed at $900 which puts it well out of most people's range for a back-up gun. So don't go throwing your carbines and shotguns away for this puppy, as they are probably are two to three times cheaper. Just remember to hold on to this thing if you end up out of ammo. It might just save your life down the road.
Caliber: Can chamber, fire, and extract almost any cartridges in the .38/9mm/.357 ammunition range (Except .357 Sig)
Capacity: 6 Rounds (Cylinder)
Action:Double Action
Weight: 2.38 lbs (1.08 kg)
Barrel Length:2.5 inch (6.4 cm), 3 inches (7.6 cm), 4 inch (10.2 cm), 5 inch (12.7 cm), or 6 inch (15.2 cm)
Overall Length: Varies by ammo type.

5.55mm Revolver: A weapon rumored to have been fabricated in Britain in the early '90's, using a replica of a Colt Model 1860 Navy revolver frame.
Caliber: 5.56mm/.223 caliber (NATO Standard)
Capacity: 6 rounds. (This claim has fueled speculation as to the maker's veracity; It is believed by some it was actually only 5 rounds, as 6 would have taken more space than is apparently available).
Reload: Single fire wing gate.
Action: Single or Dual.
Weight: About 18 oz.
Barrel Length: 6 to 8 inches.
Overall Length: 10 to 12 inches.
Construction: A .357 revolver's internal components, an AR-15 barrel, and a custom built cylinder. Purportedly, the revolver was dual action, but required a single-action style wing gate for loading as the 5.56MM cartridge was too powerful for more modern revolver designs.
As firearms are strictly illegal in Britain, the maker has wisely not stepped forward to promote their design. However, this has forced us to accept the maker's claims at face value, which can not be verified.

Taurus Arms "Judge" Shotgun Revolver: This gun can fire .410 shot shells, and .45 colt ammo*, making it more flexible then your average wheelgun. There are two basic variants, one with a 3 inch barrel, and one with a 6.5 inch barrel. This is emphasized by the 5-round ammo capacity. It also features rubber grip, so it can conform to any hand. useful as a backup weapon, i.e. when all your other guns are out of ammo. Being a modern revolver, the Taurus can be shoot double action or single action on the fly. It has more than enough firepower to take care of anything.
*Note that this is .45 long colt, not the much more common .45 ACP pistol rounds, they will not fit as they have no rims.
Caliber: .410 bore shot-shell and .45 Colt*
Capacity: 5 Rounds
Action: Double Action
Weight: 29 ounces and 32 ounces
Barrel Length: 3 and 6.5 inches
Overall Length: 7.5 and 9.5 inches

Kel-Tec PLR-16: This offering from Kel-Tec Industries of Florida is a gas-operated, semi-automatic pistol chambered in .223 Remington first offered in 2006. George Kellgren, formerly of the Intratec and Grendel firearms companies was the principal designer. The PLR (Pistol, Long Range) has been designed for recreational plinking, informal target shooting, hunting small game, and even varmint or predator hunting at moderate ranges. Velocity is reduced from the short barrel of the PLR as compared to a rifle, losing roughly 600 feet per second muzzle velocity with standard 55 grain ball ammunition. The PLR-16 combines the multi-lug rotating bolt design and breech-locking system found on the AR-15/M-16 with a gas piston system similar to that found on the M-1 Garand, M-14, and Kalashnikov. This system requires less maintenance than the direct gas impingement system of the AR-15 platform. The PLR-16's frame is constructed of reinforced polymer, making the pistol both durable and light-weight, and incorporates an M-1913 style Picatinny rail molded to the top of the receiver to accept various optics. A separately supplied polymer forend with a Picatinny rail upon which to mount lights or laser sights is available. And yes, it IS a LEGAL PISTOL.

.357 Caliber Uzi Sub-Machinegun: Another rumored weap, the .357 cal submachine gun is said to have been manufactured in small quantities, either in France or Italy, for special forces work, in the 1970's. The weap was tested for potential hostage-rescue/terrorist 'elimination' work, with special emphasis on the fact that the .38 cal can be fired from the gun, allowing a virtually unlimited training opportunity (as the .38 is almost as cheap as .22's). However, the weap developed some sort of issue (which has never been revealed) and did not enter mass production. One option presented was to convert a commercial 9mm Uzi barrel (not chrome lined like factory barrel is), re-cambering it for the 357 Sig. Then marry a 45 ACP Uzi bolt with a 9mm extractor.

I actually know a little bit about this weapon that the writer didn’t- It was actually made from custom-fabricated barrel and grip and custom-modified bolt by the Mafia in a “back-yard factory� (specifically, a barn on some Godfather’s ranch). How exactly it came to pass that these came into their possession is another question entirely.

AR-7 Survival Rifle: Although originally conceived for down aviators over South East Asia, the AR-7 is not a useless weap; Chambered for the .22 LR, this handy little gun can actually be broken down INTO ITS OWN BUTTSTOCK, making in extremely compact. Unfortunately, not many of this particular weap exists (though they are still in production, according to Henry Repeaters official website), though many manufacturers produce an example of this gun; Therefore, you should be able to find a comparable example. There is at least one chambered for the .9MM and .357 cal (which therefore also chamber the .38 cal).

[fallout ranger]

5.55mm Revolver: A weapon rumored to have been fabricated in Britain in the early '90's, using a replica of a Colt Model 1860 Navy revolver frame.
Caliber: 5.56mm/.223 caliber (NATO Standard)
Capacity: 6 rounds. (This claim has fueled speculation as to the maker's veracity; It is believed by some it was actually only 5 rounds, as 6 would have taken more space than is apparently available).
Reload: Single fire wing gate.
Action: Single or Dual.
Weight: About 18 oz.
Barrel Length: 6 to 8 inches.
Overall Length: 10 to 12 inches.
Construction: A .357 revolver's internal components, an AR-15 barrel, and a custom built cylinder. Purportedly, the revolver was dual action, but required a single-action style wing gate for loading as the 5.56MM cartridge was too powerful for more modern revolver designs.
As firearms are strictly illegal in Britain, the maker has wisely not stepped forward to promote their design. However, this has forced us to accept the maker's claims at face value, which can not be verified.

PICTURE pweeeeze


Looks like I'm going to get my AR lower soon, Spike's Tactical, only $90 at Brownell's (+25 for DROS). Then comes the buildup

[Junktown Commando]

Don’t know much about it myself. Just found this information on some wacko conspiracy theory site. I recall the gun itself looked exactly like an old-fashion (like Civil War) revolver.

[Kashluk]

Junktown, its not a matter of municipality when you're comparing a town in Virginia to Washington D.C. One is under state jurisdiction and the other under federal.

And it's always accurate to compare a small town and a metropolitan area.

[Junktown Commando]

And it's always accurate to compare a small town and a metropolitan area.

Are you still on this?
Two diffrent cities. Two opposite directions. Two opposite results.
Honestly...

Anyways, I like the Medusa 47 of the ones I listed. Like the AR-pattern, it has multiple barrel options, meaning if I run out of say 9mm, I can switch to .38, and when I run out of those I can switch to .22, and on and on, or even maybe use it as intended, switching to light (and cheap) rounds fro target practice and heavier rounds when I wanna tell some asshole "I don't love, never did, never will now drop dead."

LINK

[fallout ranger]

Well, something is being done wrong, all major cities have gun bans and/or strict gun regulations, and ALL have high crime rates...just sayin.


Changed my mind too, forget the varmint AR15, I want a Kaiserworks KR7 Basic http://www.thekaiserworks.com/products/firearms.php

Reach system looks super cool too.

[Stalagmite]

http://spaghettiwesterns.1g.fi/guns.htm

[Kashluk]

And it's always accurate to compare a small town and a metropolitan area.

Are you still on this?
Two diffrent cities. Two opposite directions. Two opposite results.
Honestly...

An American once got his penis stuck on a park bench. British dominated the world for two centuries. I'm just saying. Two different cultures. Two opposite directions. Two opposite results.

[Retlaw83]

An American once got his penis stuck on a park bench.

Dude, you don't about me like that when I'm right here.

[Manoil]

And it's always accurate to compare a small town and a metropolitan area.

Are you still on this?
Two diffrent cities. Two opposite directions. Two opposite results.
Honestly...

An American once got his penis stuck on a park bench. British dominated the world for two centuries. I'm just saying. Two different cultures. Two opposite directions. Two opposite results.

We are, as some say, "The last remaining superpower," though the depth of our ambition has seemingly weakened and our population grown mostly ignorant. There needs to be a turnaround if we want to last, but until then, McDonalds is still selling like bullets.

[fallout ranger]

Check out these guys... http://jenseprecision.com/


The stuff they got there...it'll make a grown man cry.

[Junktown Commando]

Well, something is being done wrong, all major cities have gun bans and/or strict gun regulations, and ALL have high crime rates...just sayin.

Ya, the one that made carrying guns mandatory hasn’t got a crime problem.
Just sayin’.

An American once got his penis stuck on a park bench. British dominated the world for two centuries. I'm just saying. Two different cultures. Two opposite directions. Two opposite results.

Are you really as stupid as you are?

Any REAL information on the G11?

[4too]

Done Your Homework?

Ya, the one that made carrying guns mandatory hasn’t got a crime problem.
Just sayin’.

You have yet to name this utopia in Virginia.

Just sayin'





4too

[fallout ranger]

G11!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdErfyYeJeU

[Tofu Man]

Well, something is being done wrong, all major cities have gun bans and/or strict gun regulations, and ALL have high crime rates...just sayin.

Ya, the one that made carrying guns mandatory hasn’t got a crime problem.
Just sayin’.

Sure let's compare crime data from two completely different places with completely different populational densities, with completely different levels of wealth not to mention the stark difference between high and low classes in a place as polarizing in a "major city", then pretend none of that matters and dumb it down to one place having strict gun laws and the other not having any.

Frankly, this whole discussion boils down to you going like this and thinking it a sound argument.

Just sayin'.

Are you really as stupid as you are?

And this is why you get some non-US citizens questioning gun laws in America. Because a person with this level of intelligence in possession of a firearm is an accident waiting to happen.

[Junktown Commando]

4too, Tofu Man, et el- Go to Wasteland.

Anyone know anything about that 5.56mm revolver? I’ve heard there was a video, but never seen it.

[Manoil]

4too is a master poet who needs no restriction in life

[4too]

Wandering Nearer The Topic




Back to the main event.


Went to Googleland with "5.56 revolver",

and got distracted here: http://www.gunblast.com/Bushmaster-Pistol.htm


5.56 hand gun but no exotic revolver seen on the Google first page.


Shock and awe!


Google "Colt Model 1860 Navy revolver frame" and found this site. http://www.uberti.com/firearms/army_nav ... en_top.php

Discusses conversion of black powder Colt revolvers and Remington percussion revolvers in the 1860's and 1870's.

1851 NAVY CONVERSION to .38 Spl. Others converted to 45's.

If the 5.56 revolver is too rare, perhaps searching others' conversions may provide a reasonable likeness of this revolving-BFG.






4tioo

[Junktown Commando]

That "Bushmaster Pistol" is just an AR-15 variant. I've seen it before.
I'd rather deal with the PLR-16 myself.

It's my understanding that the 5.56 revovler is, currently, a one-of-a-kind.