This may also have something to do with the fact that the Finnish GNP is a tad bit smaller than the American one.Kashluk wrote: Finnish foreign aid - 0,4 % of GNP
American foreign aid - 0,08 % of GNP
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I do agree with Atoga that Canada has their collective shit much more together then good ol America. I hate to say it, but it's true.Bush get reelected, I'm thinking about moving up there, not sure I could stand four more years of this nonsense.
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But we've got more people than Finland so per person Finland is a much more generous nation than we are. Plus since we do make more than them, lots more, they are still probably ahead of us in the generosity department. Although that probably doesn't factor in military aid, blowing shit up being our thing and all. Could be linked to countries we have a high military presence in having such advanced social services. They've decided that they don't need to raise a big army anymore because the Americans have a couple infantry divisions and a tank division and a bomber and fighter wing. We'll let the Americans fight our wars, but in the meantime lets protest their presence!Retlaw83 wrote:This may also have something to do with the fact that the Finnish GNP is a tad bit smaller than the American one.Kashluk wrote: Finnish foreign aid - 0,4 % of GNP
American foreign aid - 0,08 % of GNP
It's a word semantics thing. When he says "every 'other' nation" he's including us too. He probably could have worded it better by taking out he "other" but he didn't.Kashluk wrote:
When xbow said "every other country on the planet is fiercly nationalistic and looking out for their interests without any concern for the rest of the world ", it struck me as *very* ignorant. Calling USA the chilvary knight of the world who does random acts of kindness just because Americans are cool and great, unlike all the sand swell guy and bust-a-cap-europeans out there, hits me big time.
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Atoga you mindless sap, take a breath , wipe the spit from your mouth, and calm down.
The rest of the world is shitty? I never said that, I said that every other country is fiercely nationalistic (that includes us) I am surprised that you even with your very obvious limitations can't see the truth of that.
The rest of the world is shitty? I never said that, I said that every other country is fiercely nationalistic (that includes us) I am surprised that you even with your very obvious limitations can't see the truth of that.
All that bragging about Canada makes you appear to be a feeble minded fool that doesn’t even realize that he is fiercely nationalistic. Atoga it might be a good idea for you to have the lead content of your drinking water checked.atoga wrote:"I fucking hate Canada and it beats the US hands down"
"And we aren't looking out for our own interests, either."
"I don't even like Canada that much, but it's the one country that kind of makes you proud to be a North American."
"We have free health care, while you're busy fucking the poor in the ass because they can't pay for a triple bypass"
I claimed that it was nationalistic (if not fiercely, beyond the cultural stuff) but that it's a little more considerate than the US. I was hardly bragging about Canada, I was just pointing out its two best parts (and if you actually think the US has a better health care system than Canada, you are a nut.) I can list some of Canada's flaws, if you like: inability to deal with aboriginals, belly-up economy, shitty jobs, no places worth living beyond the three major cities, awful cultural laws. Maybe you should can the lame insults, stop taking what I'm saying quite so literally (though Canada > US by a long shot), and stop watching all the republican TV commercials and read a magazine. Honestly, stop being such an uptight, drooling OH SHIT I HEAR THE ICE CREAM TRUCK!!!!!111!1111oneone.
suppose you're thinking about a plate of shrimp. suddenly somebody will say like 'plate' or 'shrimp' or 'plate of shrimp', out of the blue, no explanation.
Atoga you drooling OH SHIT I HEAR THE ICE CREAM TRUCK!!!!!111!1111oneone
I really hate to sink to your level but since you are being such a nasty little poof I will respond in kind. First of all you are starting to get pretty shrill atoga you sound like a lisping leftist homo in the throws of a raging hissy fit.
lets make one thing perfectly clear Canada is a nation that depends on the USA economically and militarily to such a great degree that it can rightly be called a parasite nation. I comes to mind that you people don't even have the brains or balls to design and build your own weaponry, pathetic!
A few examples:
The F18 is Canada’s only air to air and air to ground weapon system needless to say it was designed and built in the USA. The weapons it carries for the RCAF are a mish mash of ordinance types made by other NATO countries.
The Canadian main battle rifle is the C7A1 assault rifle which is just an M16A2 rifle that can be fitted with an M203 grenade launcher also designed in the USA. The C8 assault carbine is just a M4 carbine (short M16) designed in the USA. The C6 general purpose machine gun is an FN mag designed in Belgium it might interest you to know that john C browning an American designed the operating system. The C9 is just a SAAW by another name it is also designed in Belgium. The M2HB browning MG designed and built in the USA.
The prime SP artillery piece you unimaginative clowns use is the venerable M109 designed and built in the USA. The prime towed artillery piece your quaint little army uses is the C2 a 105 mm howitzer it is a Vietnam era weapon made in the USA. The prime armor defeating systems in the Canadian Army are the TOW weapons system and the M72 LAAW both designed and built in the USA.
The Canadian Army uses the ancient and incredibly thin skinned leopard1 MBT and call it the LeopardC2 its made in Germany. For a time the Canadian detachment at Ft Knox Kentucky were just tickled pink when they thought that your government was going to buy the M1A1 tank, but alas your government reneged on the deal and decided that Canadian soldiers were not worth the cost of modern well armed and armored tanks. The prime Canadian APC is the M113A3 fighting vehicle made in the USA and fitted with a variety of turrets designed and built by FMC of the USA.
Canada a great nation? Canada is better than the USA? I'll tell you what, I will honor your little country and wipe my ass with a maple leaf the next time I take a shit you lisping clown. While reading your sub moronic excretions of bile it has become clear to me that your country has no need of any external enemies when it has so many nasty leftist mongrels like you at home.
I really hate to sink to your level but since you are being such a nasty little poof I will respond in kind. First of all you are starting to get pretty shrill atoga you sound like a lisping leftist homo in the throws of a raging hissy fit.
lets make one thing perfectly clear Canada is a nation that depends on the USA economically and militarily to such a great degree that it can rightly be called a parasite nation. I comes to mind that you people don't even have the brains or balls to design and build your own weaponry, pathetic!
A few examples:
The F18 is Canada’s only air to air and air to ground weapon system needless to say it was designed and built in the USA. The weapons it carries for the RCAF are a mish mash of ordinance types made by other NATO countries.
The Canadian main battle rifle is the C7A1 assault rifle which is just an M16A2 rifle that can be fitted with an M203 grenade launcher also designed in the USA. The C8 assault carbine is just a M4 carbine (short M16) designed in the USA. The C6 general purpose machine gun is an FN mag designed in Belgium it might interest you to know that john C browning an American designed the operating system. The C9 is just a SAAW by another name it is also designed in Belgium. The M2HB browning MG designed and built in the USA.
The prime SP artillery piece you unimaginative clowns use is the venerable M109 designed and built in the USA. The prime towed artillery piece your quaint little army uses is the C2 a 105 mm howitzer it is a Vietnam era weapon made in the USA. The prime armor defeating systems in the Canadian Army are the TOW weapons system and the M72 LAAW both designed and built in the USA.
The Canadian Army uses the ancient and incredibly thin skinned leopard1 MBT and call it the LeopardC2 its made in Germany. For a time the Canadian detachment at Ft Knox Kentucky were just tickled pink when they thought that your government was going to buy the M1A1 tank, but alas your government reneged on the deal and decided that Canadian soldiers were not worth the cost of modern well armed and armored tanks. The prime Canadian APC is the M113A3 fighting vehicle made in the USA and fitted with a variety of turrets designed and built by FMC of the USA.
Canada a great nation? Canada is better than the USA? I'll tell you what, I will honor your little country and wipe my ass with a maple leaf the next time I take a shit you lisping clown. While reading your sub moronic excretions of bile it has become clear to me that your country has no need of any external enemies when it has so many nasty leftist mongrels like you at home.
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You fucking moron. Looking at who designed a country's military armaments is the worst possible way to rank nations. I don't give a flying fuck who designed the Canadian Army's rifles. I'm rather more interested in socialized health care, subsidized education and quality of life ranked by the UN as many spots above the US.
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Agreed, just because the equipment is designed by someone else doesn't mean the military is lacking. The Canadian military is rather strong for it's size and trains it's troops very well. The fact of the matter though is that the United States povides most of the security for North America which has allowed Canada to be the socialist paradise it is. Although today a strong military isn't quite as important now that there is no threat of the commies invading from over the North Pole.
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Why would we design our own weapons when we can just use yours, you douche? Of course Canada isn't high on the military ranking ladder, but what do you need that for? Canada is going along fine sending a few soldiers in countries which NATO judges they need help, and that certainly ain't for profit.
Canada rather invests in medecine and social researchs, trying to actually improve the quality of life in other ways than just lowering taxes. Of course it doesn't have the same magnitude as the USA, or France or Japan. We're only 30 millions. Still, I think Canada's general contribution to the world's general well-being is kind of high for it's percentage of the world's population
Even though I'm canadian my opinion's not really biased. Spaz knows I'm an evil separatist.
Canada rather invests in medecine and social researchs, trying to actually improve the quality of life in other ways than just lowering taxes. Of course it doesn't have the same magnitude as the USA, or France or Japan. We're only 30 millions. Still, I think Canada's general contribution to the world's general well-being is kind of high for it's percentage of the world's population
Even though I'm canadian my opinion's not really biased. Spaz knows I'm an evil separatist.
What in the name of Peter Frampton? That's how you start a rebuttle? Uh-uh, that's a bad Xbow. That's more ingnorant and offensive than Zell. Lets make this simple, Canada doesn't have to manufacture their own weapons, they save alot of money by adopting those already in use. They buy them, therefor they are theirs, therefor it doesn't matter where they come from. In Europe, many countries share the same fighters and tanks, does that make them inferior? If you refuse to be civil, stop posting. No one wants to deal with that kind of bullshit attitude. I'm trying very hard not to lose my temper. VERY HARD.xbow wrote:Atoga you drooling OH SHIT I HEAR THE ICE CREAM TRUCK!!!!!111!1111oneone
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doc hill i am suprised that you didnt notic that it was atoga that made the
drooling OH SHIT I HEAR THE ICE CREAM TRUCK!!!!!111!1111oneone comment! Those were his last two words directed at me in his post I simply pasted them in. Now why don't you direct some of your corrective measures at him, that is if you have any sense of fair play.
drooling OH SHIT I HEAR THE ICE CREAM TRUCK!!!!!111!1111oneone comment! Those were his last two words directed at me in his post I simply pasted them in. Now why don't you direct some of your corrective measures at him, that is if you have any sense of fair play.
You have been able to do that bcause you have been hiding behind lady liberty's skirt for so long you silly bitch. Yes you have been quite self serving while we provided a shield for you to hide behind. As for you not producing your own weapons its just another example of how dependant you have become on the Ameican teat.S4urOn27 wrote:Canada rather invests in medecine and social researchs, trying to actually improve the quality of life in other ways than just lowering taxes.
Fine, Atoga, don't say drooling OH SHIT I HEAR THE ICE CREAM TRUCK!!!!!111!1111oneone either, salavating fabulous person is fine. And Xbow, cut out the teat stuff, it's getting creepy.Real creepy.In fact, no more teats at all in this thread please, you people fling teats around like they grown on trees.
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Yeah, only we brough a half dozen new designs to Afghanistan, where you bombed our soldiers.xbow wrote:You have been able to do that bcause you have been hiding behind lady liberty's skirt for so long you silly bitch. Yes you have been quite self serving while we provided a shield for you to hide behind. As for you not producing your own weapons its just another example of how dependant you have become on the Ameican teat.S4urOn27 wrote:Canada rather invests in medecine and social researchs, trying to actually improve the quality of life in other ways than just lowering taxes.
Yay America! Innovation in the form of drugged-up pilots, prison abuse and friendly fire!
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and shoots a gun 
like every good American should 
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Your killing me doc! the drooling OH SHIT I HEAR THE ICE CREAM TRUCK!!!!!111!1111oneone thing was a serious thing to you when it was me that you corrected but just a joke when you discovered that atoga initiated the mud slinging contest.
Even with that obvious double standard you are the only leftist that on this board that can put together a convincing and logical set of arguments, and the only one that doesn’t resort to an instantaneous volley of insults when someone has a different view than you do. You are a rare item on the left Doc.
Doc Hill wrote:What in the name of Peter Frampton? That's how you start a rebuttle? Uh-uh, that's a bad Xbow. That's more ingnorant and offensive than Zell.
do I detect a dichotomy here? AH! I guess its just easier to take a swipe at someone that doesn’t share you views right.Doc Hill wrote:Fine, Atoga, don't say drooling OH SHIT I HEAR THE ICE CREAM TRUCK!!!!!111!1111oneone either
Even with that obvious double standard you are the only leftist that on this board that can put together a convincing and logical set of arguments, and the only one that doesn’t resort to an instantaneous volley of insults when someone has a different view than you do. You are a rare item on the left Doc.
I'm almost sad that I missed the inauguration of the xbow-the-cretin show . .
Personally I think it would be fucking wonderful if Australia were modeling itself after Canada rather than the US - i.e less 'DEPUTEE TU TEH SHERIF OV TEH WURLD!!1 LETZ KILL SUM ARABZ!!!!!!1five' and more funding for vital things like public education (ideally phasing out all costs, but this is bloody unlikely), health care (again, ideally free health care for everyone would be great, but this is not going to happen), and the sterilisation of politicians and children's entertainers. That last one especially.
Personally I think it would be fucking wonderful if Australia were modeling itself after Canada rather than the US - i.e less 'DEPUTEE TU TEH SHERIF OV TEH WURLD!!1 LETZ KILL SUM ARABZ!!!!!!1five' and more funding for vital things like public education (ideally phasing out all costs, but this is bloody unlikely), health care (again, ideally free health care for everyone would be great, but this is not going to happen), and the sterilisation of politicians and children's entertainers. That last one especially.
You are an all to common item on the right, twit.xbow wrote:You are a rare item on the left Doc.
I'm not rare. Intelligencia gravitates toward the left. Not saying the right doesn't have any, but artists and poets enjoy the liberal side of the world. I spend alot of my time researching things, and while I don't always come across perfectly, I try to base myself in cold hard facts. However, I don't want anymore drooling f*g references, I'm not an admin or a mod, but think of me as a referee. You can call eachother twits and idiots, but lets no get moronic here folks. As for my "double standard" Sometimes I need my coffee, and sometyimes I'm riding a sugar buzz.
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I’ll be eating crow here
I am truly sorry for the loss of those men and I wrote my congressman when it first happened to let him know that those USAF pilots and the AWACS operators should be hammered into the dirt.
Actually since the introduction of mechanized warfare friendly fire has historically accounted for a small but significant percentage of the casualties generated in a conflict. Friendly fire is even more probable when multinational forces operate together.
I think that it is high time that the USA take responsibility and develop a reliable IFF* system for all ground units to protect them from friendly air strikes and make sure that we have enough of them to hand out to every allied platoon sized unit in the theater of operation. Direct fire and artillery Friendly fire
What disturbs me is that the USAF pilots were instantly thinking of how to justify their error rather than stepping up to the plate and taking full responsibility. I have a question, were the families of the slain men compensated in any way by the US Government? I know money can’t replace the men lost or lessen the pain of the wounded but certainly the wounded men and the families deserve some serious compensation.
friendly fire info
The rest of your derisive rant is just to shabby to even be called cheap but I understand you anger so I wont respond to them.
six new designs introduced by Canada name them you have my attention!
*IFF=Identification Friend or Foe
I am truly sorry for the loss of those men and I wrote my congressman when it first happened to let him know that those USAF pilots and the AWACS operators should be hammered into the dirt.
Actually since the introduction of mechanized warfare friendly fire has historically accounted for a small but significant percentage of the casualties generated in a conflict. Friendly fire is even more probable when multinational forces operate together.
I think that it is high time that the USA take responsibility and develop a reliable IFF* system for all ground units to protect them from friendly air strikes and make sure that we have enough of them to hand out to every allied platoon sized unit in the theater of operation. Direct fire and artillery Friendly fire
What disturbs me is that the USAF pilots were instantly thinking of how to justify their error rather than stepping up to the plate and taking full responsibility. I have a question, were the families of the slain men compensated in any way by the US Government? I know money can’t replace the men lost or lessen the pain of the wounded but certainly the wounded men and the families deserve some serious compensation.
friendly fire info
The rest of your derisive rant is just to shabby to even be called cheap but I understand you anger so I wont respond to them.
six new designs introduced by Canada name them you have my attention!
*IFF=Identification Friend or Foe
