It's the final countdown, mang

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:22 pm

50 years of poverty troubled the Polish mind I think

St. Toxic · Post by **St. Toxic** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:52 pm

You get what you deserve.

http://judicial-inc.biz/Broomberg.htm

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:48 pm

I will sound biased, but the site you linked Toxic is full of shit and (at least partly) based on nazi forgery. I'm not saying Poles are angels, but we should rely on reliable sources. I don't really feel like discussing history, do you?
Damn, this site is really full of shit.
Anyway Susan was probably refering to the communit control over our country after the war, and not the war, so why mention ww2 anyway?

Blargh · Post by **Blargh** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:23 pm

Wheee ! Propaganda !

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:38 pm

Yes I was referring to communism.

I don't think you need to get all worked up over Toxic's links though. I think we pretty much all know that it's bullshit, and we take it with a grain of salt.

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:27 pm

oh, I thought you're rather ignorant of Poland's history (and it's all right considering the relative insignificance of my country from Northern American perspective, all the more its past)
BTW, I happen to be living in Bromberg (Bydgoszcz).

St. Toxic · Post by **St. Toxic** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:36 pm

PiP wrote:The site you linked St. Toxic is full of shit and partly based on nazi forgery.

I pretty much visit it for the midi's, you'd have to admit they're pretty awesome.

PiP wrote:I'm not saying Poles are angels...

You got that right. I've been robbed on every trip through that devious hellhole.

PiP wrote:...but we should rely on reliable sources.

Like what?

PiP wrote:I don't really feel like discussing history, do you?

Don't know, I think I kinda' do. Maybe we should do this over at nma?

PiP wrote:Damn, this site is really full of shit.

Heh, yeah. Html copyrighted by the FÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¼hrer himself, 1996.

PiP wrote:Anyway Susan was probably refering to the communist control over our country after the war, and not the war, so why mention ww2 anyway?

Well, the results of ww2 were the factors to determine wether you'd wind up as Third Reich, Commie or Free-state. The article claimed it was your fault so; bam! communism - 50 years of poverty - mental instability - "You get what you deserve".

Blargh! wrote:Wheee ! Propaganda !

I'd call it "The Alternative Truth".

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:14 am

I call it "The ONLY Truth".

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:15 am

St. Toxic wrote:
PiP wrote:I'm not saying Poles are angels...
You got that right. I've been robbed on every trip through that devious hellhole.

I've never been robbed yet and I've been living in this hellhole for 'a few' years, but seriously my apologies on behalf of (the better part) of the Polish people. Anyway from my journeys and from other sourcers I take it that thieving bastards aren't phenomena exclusive to Poland. But you know that, don't you.

Toxo wrote:
PiP wrote:...but we should rely on reliable sources.
Like what?

Well for instance Wiki, though not being perfect, would be far better than the notorious site, don'che think?

Toxo wrote:
PiP wrote:I don't really feel like discussing history, do you?
Don't know, I think I kinda' do. Maybe we should do this over at nma?

Blargh · Post by **Blargh** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:08 pm

PiP wrote:Wiki

Wheee ! Propaganda !

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:18 pm

PiP wrote:oh, I thought you're rather ignorant of Poland's history

I love History, and my interest in it doesn't depend on the geographical position of a country!

Nicolai · Post by **Nicolai** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:21 pm

Yeah, I'm totally into greography.

St. Toxic · Post by **St. Toxic** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:10 pm

PIP wrote:Well for instance Wiki, though not being perfect, would be far better than the notorious site, don'che think?

Not really, no. It's a collection of popular history, is it not?

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:17 pm

well it's not perfect like I said. I read wiki's article on "Bromberg bloody sunday": it's trying to present different views and, as such, is far better than the propaganda site. It's not great, but will do for a start if someone want to do a research on the subject; I've had enough, thank you.

As regards other sources, I could quote Polish encyclopaedia, but though opined to be professional and aiming at objectivism, it may be not saying the whole truth I'm afraid, so I don't wanna be bashed for presenting biased sources.

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:19 pm

7 years 'til apocalypse

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:21 pm

Nicolai wrote:Yeah, I'm totally into anal