Fallout 3, still no comment

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:39 pm

Bah, stop whining about Bethesda. Okay maybe it won't be better than FO 1 and 2, but I really doubt it would have been better having Interplay do it. From what we've seen, Van Buren looked like shit. And Interplay didn't have the funding to allow all the necessary ressources to the dev team to make a good game anymore, and it was doomed to fail. J.E. Sawyer never did anything good, and the whole team stunk. Puuk anyone?

I say we're lucky Bethesda bought the license and not EA or Blizzard.

Koki · Post by **Koki** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:44 pm

Troika, foo'

Urizen · Post by **Urizen** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:57 pm

i'm just surprised to see teatime post something. been a while since we've heard from the piano-playing goth.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:22 pm

Koki wrote:Troika, foo'

Troika's dead, and they didn't have any funding either. Their FO3, if ever released, would have been full of shitty bugs like Vampire and ToEE and apparently Arcanum(never played it). And by the look of their 3 games, Troika would have quickly turned FO3 into a hack n'slash game. Just take a look at Vampire's later missions.

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:36 pm

What's with the sudden love for Bethesda, Susan?

Let's face it, Fallout is better

than MORROWIND WITH GUNS!!

4too · Post by **4too** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:44 pm

Ziet Giest

V.:

... MORROWIND WITH GUNS!!

I thought the wheel of karma had moved on ..... the 'once and future' FO3 would be ...

Oblivion With Guns!

4too

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:08 pm

Well, he said it will stay 'true to its roots', so I assume he meant Morrowind.

Inin · Post by **Inin** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:13 pm

Ahhhh, the great 4too graces this thread with one of his ever-insightful posts.

This lurker certainly misses your input, 4too. Smoking opium just isn't as fun without having one of your posts to read.

-Inin

on topic: (p.s. - there is no Fallout 3, it died years ago)

baby arm · Post by **baby arm** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:34 pm

"Troika's dead, and they didn't have any funding either. Their FO3, if ever released, would have been full of shitty bugs like Vampire and ToEE and apparently Arcanum(never played it). And by the look of their 3 games, Troika would have quickly turned FO3 into a hack n'slash game. Just take a look at Vampire's later missions."

In case you haven't noticed, Bethesda's games are always full of shitty bugs (especially the exciting CTD kind).
And I'll take Bloodlines or Arcanum over Daggerfall or Morrowind any day.

Carib · Post by **Carib** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:35 pm

Amen Baby arm, a-fucken-men

Burnov · Post by **Burnov** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:58 pm

Man, Fallout should be dead. End of story, anyone with half a shred of respect or who actually enjoyed the series would be insulted by an offering like this.

Clearly games these days cannot be made without making game-breaking concessions to the lowest common denominator, because for the most part the developers run by big companies have a bunch of swell guy wearing suits who are afraid to take a gamble and go with anything but a seemingly sure bet. Which means in the end, the games will fucking suck or at the very least, be an uninteresting disappointment to anyone without a third copy of the 21st chromosome.

If you enjoy transformer hentai or some shit, then clearly you have a perverse appetite for bastardizing things that either yourself or someone once enjoyed once upon a time, so you may end up liking the game. I don't want to remember Fallout in the same way I recall my disappointment for Morrowind.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:23 pm

I've never had any problem with Morrowind, no CTDs, no lag, nothing. Sure, it's wasn't a good game in my opinion, it didn't match with my tastes, but it was still somewhat quality.

Saying there was as much bugs in Morrowind as in Bloodlines really is blind loving for Tim Cain. Hey, the guy is good, he has ideas, good ones, but you gotta admit Troika has proven that they didn't have the ability to transform good ideas into good games.

And yes, of course I agree that FO3 is better off dead than in Bethesda's hands, but I still like it better there than in Troika's or EA's.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:34 pm

S4ur0n27 wrote:but it was still somewhat quality.

In what way?

Koki · Post by **Koki** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:49 pm

S4ur0n27 wrote:Troika's dead, and they didn't have any funding either. Their FO3, if ever released, would have been full of shitty bugs like Vampire and ToEE and apparently Arcanum(never played it). And by the look of their 3 games, Troika would have quickly turned FO3 into a hack n'slash game. Just take a look at Vampire's later missions.

The thing is, they would get funding from anyone if they had FO3.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:13 pm

Interplay had it.

You also have to wonder, was it only the lack of money that rendered Troika's 3 games unplayable?

I seriously doubt Troika's ability to produce good games.

As for Morrowind, Walt, you may not like(I don't either) but it was still a well-made game, in it's genre. At least I think so.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:37 pm

That's not what I asked, I asked how was it qualitative, not if it was qualitative.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:00 pm

Hell, like I said, for me, it wasn't packed with bugs. My system wasn't exactly high-end, and I had a smooth gaming experience. I never had any crashes.

The world was huge and detailed, cities were diversified, the character system is interesting, the lore is wonderful, the faction system was mostly good, the graphics were excellent, the quests were, until some point, good.

Now there's the fighting and the dialogue systems which I didn't like but I must admit it, they work.

baby arm · Post by **baby arm** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:12 pm

I got CTDs about every 10 minutes (on 2 different computers) and a whole host of other, less serious bugs. Daggerfall dropped me into the Void about once per dungeon. I liked both games a lot as sandbox games, but they're light years away from what I would hope FO3 would be. Troika's games had their share of problems, but they're a lot closer to what a new Fallout should be. And I don't have any faith that Beth can turn around and create a game that would do the name justice. It's not in their background at all.

johnnygothisgun · Post by **johnnygothisgun** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:28 am

I too had an ungodly amount of CTDs with Morrowind, although I did enjoy it in some ways.

That's not to say I would take it over Arcanum. I've never played ToEE or Bloodlines, but if Arcanum is any indication I can't imagine they were bad, either.

Nicolai · Post by **Nicolai** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:30 am