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Dude, this is a Fallout fansite. What are we supposed to talk about? And there actually is alot that we already know about Fallout 3. We know who is developing it, we know their track record. We know setting. We know that there will probably be pointless dungeons. The rest is educated guessing. And since this is a fallout site, ,discussing Fallout 3, even the rumors, should be top priority. And to me, what Rosh has said has just confirmed my own thoughts.LoneGunman wrote:This might already have been said, but there is one essential thing to this:
We do not know anything, AT ALL!
And thats pretty much it. Even though all the previous predictions from the community has been correct, the fact of the matter is that we do not know anything specific about FO3. It is kinda hard to debate a topic when you do not have any cold hard facts on the table, and to be frank i belive its hard to percive this as more than a bunch of frustrated people that is hungry for actual information and in the mean time is experiencing a slight case of mass hysteria. All we really do is toss rumors around, that might be true or false.
This Ross character seems to be one of many sources to all of this, and even though his predictions might be correct he still bases them on rumors which IMO makes them at least partially invalid. I do not want to be tossing snotballs at the guy but i think he should be carefull with statements like that. All he does is throwing fuel on a fire that already is burning to fiersly.
Someday the game is gonna hit the shelves, and by then i sincerely hope that Rosh, and everybody that agrees with him, will look like a giant ass because the game turns out to be great.
Proof? As far as I know, he clearly stated that he did NOT see the game in any form and only looked at some concept art.Mr. Teatime wrote:Well, I am curious about Desslock's post, because as I said, he's the only one who's actually seen the game, outside of Bethsoft employees. It genuinely might not be as bad as some might are predicting.
What a load of crap. Are you 12? Beth fucked the Daggerfall fans with Morrowind, then the MW fans with Oblivion, and they are about to fuck the Fallout fans with Fallout 3. They will make tons of money and will be proclaimed the savior of the venerable Fallout franchise and the RPG developer of the century.T-900 wrote:All I see in that is Rosh trying to cause trouble, getting upset and having a semi-fictional rant about his fears to make himself feel better O.o
Bethesda may fuck up... But it will hurt them. They'll go from respected RPG developers (already injured since Oblivion's consolification) to being regarded like Electronic Arts.. Crowd-pleasing, money grabbing filth without regard for depth or quality.
It will ruin their public image, aside from sales... And public image remains important. The majority will buy anything just like they'll watch anything just like they'll eat anything you slough into their trough... But the opinions of those with minds still matter.
You said it all.Beth fucked the Daggerfall fans with Morrowind, then the MW fans with Oblivion, and they are about to fuck the Fallout fans with Fallout 3. They will make tons of money and will be proclaimed the savior of the venerable Fallout franchise and the RPG developer of the century.
Except that he didn't say anything. Only the usual "Fallout fans are gonna get screwed, again" we've heard pretty much since the project was announced; conclusions nearly everyone made when they read the word 'Bethesda' on that fateful press release in 2004. It's just his ego talking, as per usual. In fact, those statements are as vague as the standard Todd Howard interview. Unless he's willing to specifically reveal whatever info he's gotten from his so called contacts he might as well shut his yap.Dogmeatlives wrote:And to me, what Rosh has said has just confirmed my own thoughts.
Amen.VasikkA wrote:Unless he's willing to specifically reveal whatever info he's gotten from his so called contacts he might as well shut his yap.
While Bethesda's history doesn't inspire us with much confidence, <b>this witchhunt is getting ridiculous.</b>
Delusional much, or just a ESF suckass?VasikkA wrote: Except that he didn't say anything. Only the usual "Fallout fans are gonna get screwed, again" we've heard pretty much since the project was announced; conclusions nearly everyone made when they read the word 'Bethesda' on that fateful press release in 2004.
Funny, did you bother to read any of it?It's just his ego talking, as per usual.
I do recall including what the developers in question were guessing from what they were seeing, thanks for proving your reading comprehension.In fact, those statements are as vague as the standard Todd Howard interview.
Read or do me the same courtesy.Unless he's willing to specifically reveal whatever info he's gotten from his so called contacts he might as well shut his yap.
At this point, you already know. The next question is: Will Bethesda spit or swallow?Dogmeatlives wrote:Can we all at least agree that the game will more than likely suck?
No clue about that, honestly.By the way, is Fallout3.org still in the works?
Yeah, I read it 3 months ago. To you, CRPGs seem to fall into 2 categories; bad and worse - which is why I take everything you write with a spoonful of salt. I realize that Fallout 3 will never fill the expectations that are set upon it, but to draw conclusions about the story, dialogue and the finer roleplaying aspects of the game requires more than hearsay and 3 month old information.Rosh wrote:Funny, did you bother to read any of it?
Sorry if you're not able to denote the finer differences between a brief two sentence description, and a THREE PARAGRAPH description that details a lot more in-depth than what I had previously released. True, it might still be based upon old information, but I was doing something called "expanding the info", in particular when you're too stupid to note that you're linking on DAC, and the thread of note is on RPGCodex and I was summarizing what I knew for someone who specifically asked.VasikkA wrote:Yeah, I read it 3 months ago. To you, CRPGs seem to fall into 2 categories; bad and worse - which is why I take everything you write with a spoonful of salt. I realize that Fallout 3 will never fill the expectations that are set upon it, but to draw conclusions about the story, dialogue and the finer roleplaying aspects of the game requires more than hearsay and 3 month old information.Rosh wrote:Funny, did you bother to read any of it?
Now: WHY OH WHY do they let both retarded and dyslexic people post?Rosh wrote:Sorry if you're not able to denote the finer differences between a brief two sentence description, and a THREE PARAGRAPH description that details a lot more in-depth than what I had previously released.
Thanks for reading the thread to have some idea of context before you raped your keyboard to make stupid. I hope you now feel proud of yourself for actively lowering the average IQ of the human species of cockroach.
negullah wrote:Now: WHY OH WHY do they let both retarded and dyslexic people post?Rosh wrote:Sorry if you're not able to denote the finer differences between a brief two sentence description, and a THREE PARAGRAPH description that details a lot more in-depth than what I had previously released.
Thanks for reading the thread to have some idea of context before you raped your keyboard to make stupid. I hope you now feel proud of yourself for actively lowering the average IQ of the human species of cockroach.
You failed to mention that theyVDweller wrote: Beth fucked the Daggerfall fans with Morrowind, then the MW fans with Oblivion, and they are about to fuck the Fallout fans with Fallout 3. They will make tons of money and will be proclaimed the savior of the venerable Fallout franchise and the RPG developer of the century.
Rosh it must be one of these days, no?
