Duck and Cover

Moron or troll? It's getting rather hard to tell. This twit decided to post some real flamebait over at NMA and also post about FOOL.

The post is in the archive page of the Fo3 forum.

**** You really think this is all crap eh, well thats purly an opinion and shoudn't be removed from the NMA message board because I "flamed somebody" on the DAC board ONCE, heh ****

The fact of the matter is, im a fallout fan and have been since around 4 years now. I’ve been going to NMA since about 3, ever since it was first made, and have gained a great amount of respect for it. A few days ago I decided to throw a few of my views about fallout up on the board for fun and also throw a few links up for a VB engine I found; I thought I was just helping out, since I seen it on another post in the fallout 3 section about a SPECIAL system being made in VB. I NEVER expected to get nothing but criticism and "hate replies", if you will. But I really had no idea that everyone in the Fallout community was so picky as to where simple posts are made. I agree that a message board should be kept in reasonably good order, but I think a few of you are taking your power a little to far. I mean, being an admin does not give you the right to be "cocky". And if being an Admin makes you feel powerful, well frankly that’s pretty sad. I expect to get a ton of hate replays from this post, but I just want to set things strait with the general fallout fans that read this. I never came to these forums to MAKE trouble; I assure you my intentions at first were in good nature. But I won’t leave without first stating one suggestion: Next time, please don’t be so quick to jump on a "Newbies" back. Note: Im sure no newbie to Fallout though, I’ve been playing it since about 3 months after it first came out. I just never made an attempt to talk about it in a forum before. Also, to Rosh, I don’t think my post was bad at all. I’ve seen MANY posts in your NMA board containing some of the same things. And im extremely confident that my "Holy 13 Commandments of Fallout" are true to Fallout. I can’t see any real Fallout fan debating them.

With all that in mind, judge me as you will.


!!!! The Holy 13 !!!!

1. RPG element (Char Development, Quests, Plot that gets deeper as the game goes on, STRONG story, SPECIAL system etc…).

2. Isometric View (Over top View, 3rd Person).

3. 1950’s look and feel. – Big clunky armour, huge vacuum tubs, big computers, music.

4. Dry desert wasteland survival feel.

5. turn-based combat.

6. Searching for ammo and new guns to use (Challenge).

7. Fallout humour.

8. Death animations.

9 Hours of non-stop gameplay.

10. Christ-Like hero (Vault Dweller/Chosen One) Same Bloodline

11. Realism – No fantasy crap (EX. Magic)

12. Profanity/Sex

13. Choices (Good or Evil)


*There are a LOT of things that make Fallout what it is, I prob misses a few, so feel free to post em! Also, remember that no other Fallout Interplay makes will EVER give you the same feel as the original did! Games are the same as movies, when you played Fallout for the very first time, you were more interested in the story as it unfolded. To make a great story, there needs to be some shocking twists in it, witch the developers of Fallout 2 did quite nicely. However, they went overboard with the Vault Experiment twist, in my opinion.


Suggestions For Improvements & Tactics Vs. Original Fallouts

Obviously the graphics in Tactics should be kept. They were great and for the most part, kept the Fallout feel. (There were some tiles I didn’t think suited the Fallout Universe however)

Weapons should be more primitive. (Fallout 1 stuff suits the Universe to a Tee)

Society should be a little more primitive as well.

Don’t put HUGE MOFO technology areas a few days walk away from tribles… It don’t make sense.

Advanced politics don't belong in Fallout. – There shouldn’t be a president and democracy shouldn’t be overdone. There has to be some politics in the wasteland, but not advanced stuff, it just doesn’t fit in a PA universe.

Fallout shouldn’t go overboard on the technology aspect of the game. The Si-Fi story is great, but in MY opinion it was overdone in Fallout 2 when you hit San Fran & New Reno *kinda*. NCR was done just right, the feel really felt “Waste-Teckish� (Didn’t go overboard on the teck)

From what I hear in other posts, modules sound GREAT! That is, provided it doesn’t take away from the actual game that is released. EX. BG II, you pretty much only finished half the game. The game should come somewhat to a close, but with a few loose ends still out there, to make room for the modules. I think this would tie us all over, since we would have to wait another 3 or 4 years for Fallout 4. Modules would have to be the best idea I heard from the Fallout community concerning actually improving the game yet.

I think since interplay is in a rut, they should just take tactics and put the missing RPG element into it. Problem solved. This would save ungodly amounts of development money since the editors, graphics and engine are already on the table, and the editors are EXTREAMLY user-friendly. Interplay could hire bums to make the maps. Maybe even send it over to sweat shops in Korea. The maps would be done in a matter of days, hah.

*The original Fallouts were done so well that I can’t really think of to many improvements without being a bitch and getting really picky. Nobody likes really picky people. But ifI you think it needs something else, post it! (If your gonna say make it a 1st person shooter…. Get out of hear! Heh)

My Ideas Concerning A Fallout Online (FOOL)

A “Fallout Online� would be extremely hard for game developers to make. An online RPG would involve so much. I’m no game expert, (Am in App programmer) Fallout is the only game I ever really liked, aside from Mario 2 & 3! (Nothing beats Mario foo! lol) Anyways, I think that if BIS were to throw together an Online Fallout, it should just be a basic chat-line, just for the hard core Fallout community. Think of IRC. Now picture a Fallout world map with a ton of towns (In place of channels) that people created. When you join, you can pick what town you want to go in. and walk around talking to people. Also I guess it would be possible to put some RPG elements into it. Like, you can ask somebody to fight your character, and if you kill them, you get experience. Kind of like a pokemon thing (Crist, I cant believe I just said Pokemon *cringes*)

*Anyways, that last section , about the FOOL thing, I can feel some hard core debating coming on for that. But keep in mind I’m not an RPG fan… I hate the magic bullshit… So, please don’t criticize me to much on the FOOL idea, I’m no expert when it comes to general RPG ideas, I’m just a hardcore fallout fan.

MeTHoD-X wrote: (snipped BS post)

**** You really think this is all crap eh, well thats purly an opinion and shoudn't be removed from the NMA message board because I "flamed somebody" on the DAC board ONCE, heh ****

No, you were removed from the NMA message boards because you couldn't read. Go back and read the message board description there, which has been detailed for the last two years in BIG, RED LETTERS what would happen if you did certain things.

Just like here, you utterly failed to read the board descriptions. Appropriately, you got your hands smacked for being a rude idiot. Is that too hard for you to figure out? BTW- you flamed people twice here. Which, coincidentally, did have an affect upon how I decided to handle things at NMA. Since you decided to be rude here and flame at people who were comparatively nice to you (Dan) and an admin here, then I decided to save the fuss and just remove your account and post. Usually I give a warning, but you were a special case (and obviously a "Special Child­­­").

The fact of the matter is, im a fallout fan and have been since around 4 years now. I’ve been going to NMA since about 3, ever since it was first made, and have gained a great amount of respect for it.

NMA has been around a *LOT* longer than 3 years. Try another lie. Please.

A few days ago I decided to throw a few of my views about fallout up on the board for fun and also throw a few links up for a VB engine I found; I thought I was just helping out, since I seen it on another post in the fallout 3 section about a SPECIAL system being made in VB. I NEVER expected to get nothing but criticism and "hate replies", if you will. But I really had no idea that everyone in the Fallout community was so picky as to where simple posts are made.

Where does a Fallout 1 and 2 mapper post go? Not in the Fallout 3 message board. What doesn't belong in the Fallout 3 board at NMA? Figure it out please, if you have some modicum of sentience.

I agree that a message board should be kept in reasonably good order, but I think a few of you are taking your power a little to far.

Sure, we should just let everyone happily cross-post with a smile.
Get a clue.

I believe your shitty attitude since your second post in this thread has invalidated any sympathy most people might ever have had for you.

I mean, being an admin does not give you the right to be "cocky". And if being an Admin makes you feel powerful, well frankly that’s pretty sad.

Being a newbie does not give you the right to be "retarded". If you think that it's excusable that you cross-post and flame the people that take THEIR free time to provide this place, feel free to hop the fuck out, put a gun under your chin, and keep pulling the trigger until you see God. Because frankly, that's the only person who cares.

(snip misc bullshit whining)

No, you failed to apply good netiquette and cross-posted, and if you think your dumb ass got blasted here, try that BS on Usenet. You'd find yourself in killfiles faster than anything and flamed much worse. Here's food for thought: cross-posting on Usenet or Usenet mediums often violates an ISP's AUP. Guess what documents I'll be digging through with Rogers Cable?

PS: By the way, I'd suggest you leave before a certain log gets posted, racist twat. Oh, hey...there's something else to look up in the AUP...

What you don't understand is the simple fact that you weren't banned because you didn't post in the right forum, but because you didn't show respect toward the forum or it's admin.

You posted at the wrong forum and your post was relocated.
Then you did it again but instead of being quiet you called the admin an idiot.

How would you feel if you had a forum with rules, then somebody would have joined it ignore the rules and call you an idiot?

Meh, I'd rather talk about isometric engines.

MeTHoD-X.

I don't give a fuck if you're Tim Cain's illegitimate son to the holy Mary herself.

I don't give a fuck if you wear a blue and yellow vaultsuit down the street when visit the local shops to buy a carton of milk.

I don't give a fuck if you call your bedroom a "vault" - you've lived in there for 20 years without outside contact, with only playing / reading / seeing Fallout for your whole life.

In fact, I don't give a shit if you BLEED Fallout.

Mark my words. You rock up to these forums, abuse established users and then give shit to ME... the "idiot" admin - you're gonna get banned.

Guess what youngster? I fucking run this place. When you give shit to me, the "idiot admin" (especially after I was reaonable with you in the first place), I don't give a fuck how much of an "injustice" you think my actions are. I don't care. You were being an arrogant little prick. You get banned.

So please. Respond. Please give me shit. I want you to. The only reason you're still here is because Saint Proverbius thinks you "might" have some promise... for some reason.

Don't like me acting this way? Well, fuck you. Time to take some of your own bullshit medicine. I can be just as much of a prick as you can. But even worse :twisted:

On the other hand, if you act polite, respectful and decent - like everyone else - you're welcome to stay. Choice is yours.

Love,

Kreegle

Ah, thanks for giving me a nice read guys.. LOL...