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They have that in fallout 2 :roll:The 1950 were all about "A Better Life Out There" somewhere. I would think some scientist has to be working on getting a space ship to take him, his ladies, and friends to the moon.
And? It felt more like a western than the 50's. The setting was based on the Wild West, the art, setup, design, and premise were from the 50s. And then combat was from ten years from now.Actually, Fallout 1's setting was based on 50's pulp sci fi comics.
Yes, but then they're all the same. And caravans wouldn't exist (what would they have to trade one another?), and almost everything would be on top of a mountain of cement, metal, glass, plastic, et cetera. After all, the buildings came down when the bombs did.Can't towns just be places where people live? If there was a big town somewhere before the war, I would except people to live in it's remains.
Thats only partially true. If people all went to live in cities from antewar times, there'd be no one making crops, and thus no food. So then no towns would exist.That's what they make money from, not the reason of their exsitence. New Reno "was there" because Reno was big town before the war. (Even though New Reno was horribly implemented).
But why trade at all? The Vault has food processers, water purification, energy, et cetera; what do they get?Medical supplies.
That's exactly what I was saying.Choosing a race would severly harm the setting.
They most likely did. After all, this is baed on the 50's, right? So they were atom bombs, not nuclear warheads. So most would have relied on bombers for deliverance.Well... I always imagined the nukes came from big bomber planes.
Maybe have them decrease INT and END. And they generate a cloud that decreases PER. That's be... amusing.Ha, using cigarrettes and cigars raise your charisma by one point while being held, until the character completes the "Lung Cancer Awareness Day" quest, at which point using them drops your charisma. Also, the major cigarrette manufacturers all hire bounty hunters, similar to what happens when you become a childkiller in fo2.
I think it's kind of fun to walk around Reno with one in the active item slot, and click "Use On" on a hooker. Especially cuz she'll say some obvious sexual reference.They could be used to protect you from various STDs, like "wasteland herpes" from Wasteland
Well, not excactly... Fallout didn't take anything from westerns, maybe except Redding which went horribly wrong.Cosmus wrote:And? It felt more like a western than the 50's. The setting was based on the Wild West, the art, setup, design, and premise were from the 50s. And then combat was from ten years from now.
I agree with that, I was just saying that this isn't the reason to why there is a town there, but rather the reason it is still there.Yes, but then they're all the same. And caravans wouldn't exist (what would they have to trade one another?), and almost everything would be on top of a mountain of cement, metal, glass, plastic, et cetera. After all, the buildings came down when the bombs did.
I didn't say all the people were living in towns that existed before the war, I just said that the people in New Reno lived in a town before the war.Thats only partially true. If people all went to live in cities from antewar times, there'd be no one making crops, and thus no food. So then no towns would exist.
If I remember correctly they get gold from Redding... They are also growing too big for their own good, and need to trade Uranium from broken hills.But why trade at all? The Vault has food processers, water purification, energy, et cetera; what do they get?
What do they need pure gold for? And they weren't over their energy quota YET. Remember, McClure hadn't checked the numbers that far into the future, and was suprised by the info.If I remember correctly they get gold from Redding... They are also growing too big for their own good, and need to trade Uranium from broken hills.
If it doesn't seem good to you, blame the Fallout 2 devs, they had some problems in the game.
They weren't.Maximous wrote:IIf the Wasteland was created (destroyed I guess would be the right way of looking at it) with rockets (nukes on missles)...why not use them to go somewhere, or try to go to the moon.
Think of how little time has passed since people even started coming out of the Vaults and inhabiting the Wasteland. There hasn't really be time for major town histories to develop yet.Cosmus wrote:And it wasn't just FO2. Why was Junktown there? They had caravans (as did Shady Sands), but what do they have that no one else does? There need to be more town histories in Fallout 3.
Yes they did have rockets back then. In fact I think, perhaps, a flash gordon-esque rocket would even fit the theme.Maximous wrote:Ok...Dr. StrangeLove.....however, there were rockets back then.
The Enclave wanted to. Seriously, from a '50s exploration point of view, why not?payne wrote:But why on earth would you want to go to outer space/the moon/where ever?
you're in a post-apoc wasteland. It's set in a post-apoc wasteland. Why would you leave the setting?atoga wrote:The Enclave wanted to. Seriously, from a '50s exploration point of view, why not?
I'm not talking about in the world of Fallout, since survival is obviously more important. If you were super advanced (this would only really be possible for the Enclave after bombs were dropped worldwide), however, space travel might be interesting.axelgreese wrote:you're in a post-apoc wasteland. It's set in a post-apoc wasteland. Why would you leave the setting?atoga wrote:The Enclave wanted to. Seriously, from a '50s exploration point of view, why not?
It's like making a DnD game where you can use the magic spell thingy to travel into the year 5959. What's the point?
oh, I agree with the both of you fully. Space travel is never going to happen, nor is it an ideal thing for Fallout. But it's an effective and interesting plot device, to say the least.Dan wrote:I think what Axel said is true...
If you make a game, you don't want the player to leave the setting you made for it.
Going in a rocket to the moon might fit the setting, but it would put the player in the moon, therby altering the setting of the game...
If the player walks around on the moon he won't exprience a 50's post apocalyptic game anymore.
Space flight is in it's infancy in Fallout's universe. Fusion power was developed in the 1970s, and the space race came much, much, much later.Maximous wrote:I think a Space Station or some kind of rocket ship should be part of FO3. A lot of 1950 focused on "Some Day Soon" we'll live on the moon. I think rockets in general were a big deal...look at the cars with the fins, kids toys, Lost in Space TV shows etc.
Because they were nuclear bombs, not ICBMs. Just another thing Fallout Tactics botched.If the Wasteland was created (destroyed I guess would be the right way of looking at it) with rockets (nukes on missles)...why not use them to go somewhere, or try to go to the moon.
Instead, it was A Better Life Here, hince the fusion power development.The 1950 were all about "A Better Life Out There" somewhere. I would think some scientist has to be working on getting a space ship to take him, his ladies, and friends to the moon.