Fallout Enforcer liked by GameSpot

[Rosh]

Surgey you have to remember about the DaC community: there are some fucktards who think that only the Fallout RPG games are GOD and GOLD and NOTHING ELSE can be great.

Experienced debate veterans, please note the previous. Note the use of hyperbole while not bothering to address the real point of the discussion: that personal opinion has no relevence to how good or poor a game really was.

Thank you for proving that we need moderators to keep the stupid like yourself in check. Next time, try to read what I write thoroughly before you make yourself look like an idiot. Again.

Now that's not saying that FO:POS is a good game (b/c it's not - good thing I'd only rent it and never buy it).

The most amusing part of your entire part lies in the quoted section above. That is perhaps the most relevent part of your involvement in this thread, playing a minority aside your whining at about 50% and your fanboyism for FOT at another 40%.

But Fallout: Tactics was a pretty fun game to play. Sure it had a few bugs, but for some people who weren't much into squad based tactical games - FO:T was a good entry-level one. Of course, there aren't many squad-based tacitcal shooters out there, and usually you don't expect to have to play SimCity AND said squad-based games (ala JA2).

It sounds like you need to get a bit more familiar with the genre. Many games out there, not just JA2, whip the pants off of FOT from years back. I highlighted the part of your statement that I thought was the most uneducated, uninformed, and completely idiotic comment I have read today.

Sometimes, the people here are wrong. They'll never admit when they are, their heads are so far up their asses (they may claim pride, but we know it's really shit - seriously, they let Rosh be a mod :badgrin:).

Better an asshole than an idiot. Take that as a hint.

Or expect way too much of things. FO:T wasn't going to be Jagged Alliance 2 in a post-apoc universe. Anybody of some sort of intelligence should have known that. After playing JA2, I can say thank god. FO:T was leagues better. Too much shit micromanagement in JA2. Micromanagement isn't eveybodies cup of tea, and the words in DaC isn't the final ones.

However, your personal dislike just puts you into the same inbred illogic pool that Surgey was using. Your opinion means JACK SHIT when you try to post it as fact, and you conveniently forget to note that in pretty much all ways JA2 was superior except it didn't cater to the clannie trash.

That would be you, wouldn't it? Don't you have a Quake forum somewhere you could be mentally jerking off onto instead if you really do deteste it here? That seems to be more your speed. Tell you what. Go put on some KOrn, whine and scream for awhile, and then go off sulking elsewhere because we refuse to accept your opinion as fact. Surgey was just chewed at for this very reason and here you post the exact same stupid shit. That...just defies any attempt to fathom just what the fuck you were smoking to achieve that level of stupid.

Let's welcome Bladen's mentally incompetent cousin/brother/father to this forum.

Welcome, BlackDog!

[4too]

Men In Beige

This thread was about a review of FO:BOS by a website that posts game news for PAY? They charge money so they must be smarter ...

The missionaries of sweetness and niceness sallied forth with the
troll's flame initiator ""you may ... me ... but ... ""

And salted their finger pointing with expletives.

It's been politely handeled by the best and the brightest that the BEIGE logic needs some editing. Unless the level of Interplay's QA is now the shining example of those that "pay to play."

All this finger pointing. The blanket assumptions. The swearing. How are you "better" than "us"?

Just the other day, I had to furiously back peddle when I realized I was spewing generalities and had no hard data, only an opinion.

Given the true context. Opinions are welcome.

It's these minions of self righteousness that come with a stick to beat salvation into our heads, with blanket statements about ..

HOW I dis'ed FOT ....

HOW I KILLED FO 3,

... while Interplay and Titus MINED the U.S. tax laws, LIKE ENRON, and bled development money away from a U.S. company into a french pocket. Worship the smart money and see what you get: FO:BOS.

You, you, you, you ..... I encourage your competitive nature. It's the content I find bland and ... beige.

And.

It's the hypocritical preachiness that irritates me.

Outside of making those you dis' into pillars of integrity, what GOOD has this missionary proselytizing wrot?

More trends for our modern age:
As the mass media swells obese. It's the opinions masquerading as facts that layers on the fat.

4too

[Franz Schubert]

Ever hear of prose 4too? You should try it some time...

I still <3 you though.

[Menno]

Men In Beige

This thread was about a review of FO:BOS by a website that posts game news for PAY? They charge money so they must be smarter ...

The missionaries of sweetness and niceness sallied forth with the
troll's flame initiator ""you may ... me ... but ... ""

And salted their finger pointing with expletives.

It's been politely handeled by the best and the brightest that the BEIGE logic needs some editing. Unless the level of Interplay's QA is now the shining example of those that "pay to play."

All this finger pointing. The blanket assumptions. The swearing. How are you "better" than "us"?

Just the other day, I had to furiously back peddle when I realized I was spewing generalities and had no hard data, only an opinion.

Given the true context. Opinions are welcome.

It's these minions of self righteousness that come with a stick to beat salvation into our heads, with blanket statements about ..

HOW I dis'ed FOT ....

HOW I KILLED FO 3,

... while Interplay and Titus MINED the U.S. tax laws, LIKE ENRON, and bled development money away from a U.S. company into a french pocket. Worship the smart money and see what you get: FO:BOS.

You, you, you, you ..... I encourage your competitive nature. It's the content I find bland and ... beige.

And.

It's the hypocritical preachiness that irritates me.

Outside of making those you dis' into pillars of integrity, what GOOD has this missionary proselytizing wrot?

More trends for our modern age:
As the mass media swells obese. It's the opinions masquerading as facts that layers on the fat.

4too

That fascinated me.

Anyway I didn't have much of a problem with the text portion of Gamespot's review; what mystified me was the fact that all that was wrong with FOBOS somehow equated it to a 7.3 rating.

The game Summoner which was reviewed on Gamespot, received a 7.7 rating and didn't have half the glaring flaws FOBOS had [based upon their respective reviews]. Yet FOBOS received a 7.3? I'm not suggesting Interplay payed off Gamespot, but it wouldn't surprise me if these game review sites are intentionally lenient upon publisher's games in return for more inside coverage for future games. It's why gamesite previews are all "Rah-rah-rah" and make excuses for everything "we're sure this'll be ironed out before release, but the game is shaping up great!". My view of this Gamespot review is that they give an honest review in their text portion to keep their "journalistic integrity", and their score may have been buffed up to keep Interplay happy. This is just my opinion though; not just of FOBOS but all game reviews, so don't take it as fact or anything.

Summoner Review: http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/summoner/review.html

[Stainless]

I liked FoT as game, despite it not being particulary challenging. It's by no means a decent tac squad game (Incubation kicks it's arse, and it's also 2 years older)

[S4ur0n27]

Why do we still have to argue over FOPOS actually being a POS?

[Saint_Proverbius]

I'm not suggesting Interplay payed off Gamespot, but it wouldn't surprise me if these game review sites are intentionally lenient upon publisher's games in return for more inside coverage for future games.

IGN and GameSpot both had exclusive trailers and movies of Fallout Enforcer, IIRC.

[Slave_Master]

Reviews like these are perfect examples of why I particularly despise quantitative ratings in reviews. Even though the guy basically disliked the game, they include one paragraph of "But it was still good" (Presumably so Iplay can quote it for their advertisements?) and a 7+ rating on the side.

IGN and GameSpot both had exclusive trailers and movies of Fallout Enforcer, IIRC.

I believe you are correct. I remember Gamespy having some features, but I'm pretty sure those were just interviews and previews.

Aside from basic, unpredictable human stupidity, I can't understand why people would do stuff like whoring themselves out for exclusive info. If you need ad revenue so much that you're willing to compromise whatever journalistic integrity you had to begin with (Doubtlessly nil, in the cases of IGN and Gamespot), you shouldn't be running a journalist website.

[4too]

Beige Rainbow

I wonder if there is a conscious style that tries to hit many divergent targets at once.

Political writers feed their talking heads different messages for each targeted constituency. Remember Al Gore turned to the "Beige Side" of the force and had a tax incentive for every real and imagined interest group, and a "true' antidote for each. Bush the Younger was less diverse, but strived for a conservative variant of "the group hug". But don't forget the mud fight in S.Carolina when Mc Caine was a possible threat in that primary. Polite pol's have anonymous proxies throw the muck and whisper big lies to tarnish distinguished war veterans.

And we remember so little of the details, but we know the mass media is a wall of noise until our mental filters engage.

Each demographic reads and comprehends preprogrammed assumptions, and ignores, denies, the discordant passages, that would disrupt the cocoon of "comfort" that passes as a world view.

Maybe this shotgun style is unconscious. Maybe it's contrived.

Maybe saying maybe is a bit "beige".

It may have more to do with being blinded by the many shades of beige, the fog of "comfort" that rewards those Politically Correct for their peer group.

Conforming to all the "should's' that each flavor of group think assails our real feelings and demands denial, blindness, and blandness.

Revel in your choice of Fallout fandom.

Many acknowledge your commitment to quality.

Even more profile you, and revile your stand against the mediocre.

You have dared to "think'' out side the box.

Glory in your choice of Fallout.

4too

[Rosh]

Your opinion means JACK SHIT when you try to post it as fact, and you conveniently forget to note that in pretty much all ways JA2 was superior except it didn't cater to the clannie trash.

I would like to retract part of the above statement. The absence of clannie trash was one of JA2's best aspects and in a franchise sense, was superior to FOT as well.