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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:13 pm
by MR Snake
Liero Pro has multiplayer support. If that was its name, I think so.
Edit: multiplayer as in online support.
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:24 pm
by Koki
So I found the polish site, Liero League, and conveniently there's article 'Liero vs. Liero Pro'. Because I have nothing else to do:
Liero 1.33 i Liero ProMode (Final lub Revisited), czyli zwykłe lejro i lejmmode, to na dzień dzisiejszy dwie najbardziej popularne wersje Liero. Zarówno za 1.33 jak i za Pro opowiada się duża liczba graczy. Ale które jest lepsze? Nie... to złe pytanie. Każdy ma swój gust. Więc może dlaczego jedni grają w to, a inni w tamto? Najlepiej odpowiedzieć na to pytanie, wyliczając przewagi Pro nad 1.33 i na odwrót. Nadmienię tylko, że ja sam jestem za Liero Pro, a Liero 1.33 wg mnie nadaje się tylko do map z piaskiem.
Liero Pro lepsze, bo:
- szybsze, dzięki czemu jest bardziej przystosowane do "quake'owego deathmatchu" i otwartych map
- stuningowana fizyka, także bardziej przystosowana do powyższych rzeczy
- nowe dźwięki, bardziej pasujące, i grafa, ładniej wyglądająca, niż ta w zwykłym Liero
- możliwość dania celownika (niemal) pionowo w dół
- szybsza linka, przelatująca całą mapę
- ciała i łuski znikają i nie blokują bunnyhopów
- wyważone bronie
- brak głupich paczek z bronią
Liero 1.33 and Liero Pro Mode(Final or Revisited) are today's two most popular versions of Liero. Both versions have many players favouring one or other. Which is better? No, it's wrong question. Everybody have their own taste. So why some are playing one, and other the other one(
Please don't blame me, this guy really writes like this)? It's best to answer the question listing Pro advantages over 1.33 and vice versa. On a side note, I favour Pro, and all 1.33 is good for are sandmaps.
Liero Pro's better 'cause:
- Faster, so more suitable for 'quake-like deathmatch' and open maps;
- Tuned physics, also more suitable for the above;
- New, better sounds and new, better graphic;
- Ability to aim (almost) straight down;
- Faster rope, with range of whole map;
- bodies and shells disappear and doesn't block bunnyhopping;
- balanced weapons;
- no stupid ammo packs.
I cutted the 1.33 advantages - you didn't missed much anyway
The guy behind Liero Pro is Biernath_John. He constantly mods the ProRevisited(Last modification: 18.01.05). Meanwhille, here's the
LieroProFinal
I translated all that and they have english readme
Go me
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:57 pm
by St. Toxic
Didn't see any difference, myself. Still, the "advantages" of "Faster rope, with range of whole map;" and "bodies and shells disappear and doesn't block bunnyhopping;" are not impressive. No wait, they're setbacks.
Tried something else today, on the crashy side. "Liero Xtreme" it was called, and it was fairly awful. Rope on a separate key, didn't see any way to tune the worm health and a bunch of crappy mods. I think they should just leave Liero as it is, on 1.33 and the earlier ones. It was in perfect balance, with more or less everything. Adding / Removing... Touching it at all should be considered a criminal act.
The sounds are rather horrid, but for a lenghty game the only real preference is some battlemusic in the background, making no use of the ingame sound anyway. Hell, feel like playing it again, but my liero buddy moved out of town a while ago, and I don't really have the motivation to make custom maps and graphics. Oh well...
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:02 pm
by the guardian
I remember playing NIL and feeling that I just stained an awesome game. Someone ought to track the original maker and torture him into making me a new Liero.
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:49 pm
by St. Toxic
You mean Metsän Eläimet? Ask Kash, Finland is pretty small, I'm sure they've bumped into each other 10 times this week alone.
EDIT FOR YOUR LIFE: A Google search takes our favourite internet reporter one step closer to the horrible truth!
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:54 pm
by Antimeasure
i walked across finland in a day, and i bumbed into Metsän Eläimet 4 times.
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:19 am
by LlamaGod
Games i've played a shitload:
Fallout 1 and 2
Freedom Force
Civ 3
Dark Age of Camelot
Medieval:Total War
Unreal Tournament 1 (and some mods for it)
Half-Life 1 + its mods
Blood
Mordor
Diablo 2 + its expansion
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:00 am
by the guardian
Freedom Force?
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:08 am
by S4ur0n27
TIE Fighter
Fallout 1 & 2
Warcraft 2
Shining Force 2
NHL '92
Final Fantasy 7, 8, Tactics
Full Throttle
Killer Instinct 1
Unreal Tournament 1
Duke Nukem 3D
Shogun : Total War
Civilization 2 & 3
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:38 am
by Stainless
- TDZK. Been playing that pretty much on a daily basis for the past 3 or so years now.
Freespace 1 & 2
Fallout 1 & 2
Super Cars 2 - even more now that I have it on my current comp
MechCommander Gold - only game I've used a mapper for.
Civ 1 & 2
Systemshock 1 & 2
Natural Selection - HL mod
Colonization
Dune 2
Red Alert
Master of Orion 1 & 2
really the list goes on, I've played a shit load of computer games for excessive amounts of time.
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:35 am
by atoga
Okay, like, really:
GTA Vice City
GTA III
GTA 2
Mafia
Half-Life
Fallouts 1 & 2
Sim City 2000 (way waaay back when)
Warcraft 2 (ditto)
That's pretty much it.
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:29 am
by POOPERSCOOPER
the guardian wrote:Freedom Force?
Its a superhero tactical type game.
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:40 am
by Wolfman Walt
It's actually pretty good. Freedom Force Vs. the 3rd Reich comes out fairly soon. I suggest picking it up.
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:09 pm
by Nicolai
Blood
Duke Nukem 3D
Shadow Warrior
Action Supercross and Elasto Mania
Liero
Fallout
GTA 1, 2, VC
Half-Life + mods
Unreal Tournament (Bullettime + AgentX DM + Volatile Ammo = fun)
X-Wing vs Tie Fighter (this game killed three of my joysticks
)
System Shock 2
Alien vs Predator
Tekken 3
The Monkey Island games ('took me three years to beat MI3
)
Diablo 2
Total Annihilation
Action Quake 2
Team Fortress (the original Quake version)
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:13 pm
by ExtremeDrinker
Monopoly Deluxe for Win3.1 - The Best Monopoly game for PC.
Theme Park for DOS - I liked it a shit ton more than Sim City.
Fallout 1 & 2 - The only games I have installed on every hard drive I've ever owned.
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:04 pm
by St. Toxic
Put me down on Tekken 3, I've played it alot. And another game for the psx, cant remember the name of it doh. Extreme Games? It was about racing and collecting money, and kicking people of their bikes and skateboards and blades etc. Alot of fun, t'was.
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:53 pm
by Subhuman
St. Toxic wrote:Extreme Games? It was about racing and collecting money, and kicking people of their bikes and skateboards and blades etc. Alot of fun, t'was.
Is that the one where that ugly chick called you a "scrub" if you lost?
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:35 pm
by St. Toxic
Dont remember any ugly chicks, the guys were ugly enough, while falling especially. There was some fancy desert level as well, Ohio or Jemen or whatever, and secret cash stashes. But it was one of a series of games, I believe, so Im sure there's more then one Xtreme out there.
This isn't it.
This is probably some old version of it. Maybe it was called 3xtreme?
Now I'm closing in. How many Xtremes are there anyway?
I dont know, doesent look like it, but its probably one of those or something. 2xtreme or 3xtreme or whatever. The screenshots look like shit anyway. But the game itself was fun, alot about reflexes and keeping a cool head in speedy situations. Awesome multiplayer too.
EDIT!!!: I now clearly remember it having gates. So it's probably one of those with the gates. Yup!
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:33 am
by S4ur0n27
Rock n roll Racing and Top Gear 1 & 2, for SNES.
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:23 pm
by Wolfman Walt
St. Toxic wrote:Put me down on Tekken 3, I've played it alot.
Tekken 5 apperently contains a version of the first 3 tekkens located on one disk. It's also supposibily the best Tekken thus far.
Hmm...my most played games
Fallout 1/2
Jagged Alliance 2
Warhammer: Dawn of War
Metal Gear Solid
Armored Core
Star Ocean 2
Final Fantasy Tactics
Garou: Mark of the Wolves