PHALLOUT II: A NEW VISION

Aneurysm · Post by **Aneurysm** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:13 pm

Shit a new weapon gif, this is gonna be da best mod ever!

Haris · Post by **Haris** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:22 pm

Its not new weapon gif. It was in Wasteland merc 2.

Thats just couple of custom gifs from the mod. There is more than that.

We are reusing crafting system from wm2 only different thing now is that we are making mining and cooking automated so all tedious parts of mod are gone. And we are making one time quests instead of repeatable quests. And we are removing worldmap and having completly new way to travel and get random encounters wich means no more conserving time wich was the biggest problem with wm2 mod.

POOPERSCOOPER · Post by **POOPERSCOOPER** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:42 pm

I like the bow gun. The whole bow facing the opposite direction of the rest of the gun makes it uber realistic.

DaC-Sniper · Post by **DaC-Sniper** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:47 pm

wow nice job haris, now that i have seen all guns already

Haris · Post by **Haris** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:11 pm

now that i have seen all guns already

Its not all guns and anyone that actually played Wasteland merc 2 has seen them. Its nothing new with them.

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:28 pm

Haris wrote:Oh wow new vision mod that was made by 20+ active people and abot 20+ that helped them out and it took several years to make and its not even 10th as famous as Wasteland merc 2 mod that was made by 2 active people and 2 that helped us out in 1 months time + 15 days beta testing.

what does that have to do with anything?

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:50 pm

Wasteland Merc 2 : the most famous Fallout mod.

Haris · Post by **Haris** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:59 pm

what does that have to do with anything?

What i am saying is that their mod should by all means be better and its not, might be fun to play it if you where planing to replay fallout 2 for god knows wich time and want it to be a bit different, even thoe prolonging arroyo and temple of trials wich everyone hates and rather just skip is wrong way to go if you ask me. I guess some of you liked that part of fallout 2.

And dont get me wrong i got nothing against TeamX. I use plenty of their tools when making Wasteland merc mods and they have done great things for the moding comunity. I dont even think new vision should be compared to wm2 mod cause they aim at 2 totally different things.

New vision is addon and wasteland merc 2 is mmorpg sumulation mod in fallout world.

johnnygothisgun · Post by **johnnygothisgun** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:09 pm

Haris wrote:New vision is addon and wasteland merc 2 is mmorpg sumulation mod in fallout world.

HAY GUYS

lets take the mmorpg concept, take away the only part of it that has the potential to make it fun, and release it as a fallout mod

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:17 pm

Haris wrote:New vision is addon and wasteland merc 2 is mmorpg sumulation mod in fallout world.

no shit kid, could you be any more obvious? it's meant to be not a total conversion, but a bunch of story and system tweaks.

also, it doesn't prolong the temple of trials and arguably it makes arroyo more interesting, because there's much more character development involved. i found the whole shaman/warrior quests and the betrayal stuff to be well written and executed, and it certainly adds something that fallout 2 lacked at that stage - actual roleplaying, which was why i praised the mod for being innovative (if narrow in scope) in the first place (which is why i compared it to wasteland merc, since roleplaying is a quality that wasteland merc lacks).

Haris · Post by **Haris** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:44 pm

also, it doesn't prolong the temple of trials and arguably it makes arroyo more interesting, because there's much more character development involved. i found the whole shaman/warrior quests and the betrayal stuff to be well written and executed, and it certainly adds something that fallout 2 lacked at that stage - actual roleplaying, which was why i praised the mod for being innovative (if narrow in scope) in the first place (which is why i compared it to wasteland merc, since roleplaying is a quality that wasteland merc lacks).

I agree on most of what you wrote there, WM2 was never ment to be fallout 2 stile crpg, it was ment to be different game in fallout world. Only thing i dont like is when people try to describe WM2 mod as something simple and not inovative. Cause there is basicly no fallout 2 mod that has equally advanced features as wm2 has.

Plus wm3 is going to have plenty character development involved, there will be 10 main quests that give you features. Like when you solve quest you get a map to mines and that enables you to drive to mines with your car, all those kinda quest will have different solutions so you will be able to beat the mods main quest chain with no combat at all.

You will for example be able to boozer up quest giver if your int is 6+ and steal the map to mines from him instead of going and clearing his house out of scorpions for the map reward. You will allso be able to threathen him if your speach is high enough so he gives you the map.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:07 pm

Haris, come back in maybe 5 years once you're mature, then maybe your skills might be valuable to anybody.

POOPERSCOOPER · Post by **POOPERSCOOPER** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:49 pm

Did anyone else notice the bow gun? It's face too far to the left, who ever did it doesn't know how to do 3-d drawings.

Haris · Post by **Haris** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:11 am

Did anyone else notice the bow gun? It's face too far to the left, who ever did it doesn't know how to do 3-d drawings.

Not sure what you mean but its done by a profesional game artist for wasteland merc 2 mod. Not some newbie that did them, this guy was working in gaming industrie for a long time.

POOPERSCOOPER · Post by **POOPERSCOOPER** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:34 am

I'm assuming the gun is coming from the back of the left corner to the front of the bottom right corner? If that is so then the bow part of the gun should be facing the bottom right and not completely to the right side of the screen like it is now. It looks messed up to me.

Haris · Post by **Haris** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:42 am

Looks like a regular crossbow with a scope to me and a bit tilted on the side.

St. Toxic · Post by **St. Toxic** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:57 am

It's an ABOMINATION! Anyone remember the mod Cleck was promoting? What was it called? "The drei keiks und Hitlerjugend Jurg"? I wonder what ever happened to that one, it looked pretty awesome.

Steelkage · Post by **Steelkage** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 5:03 am

Haris wrote:
Did anyone else notice the bow gun? It's face too far to the left, who ever did it doesn't know how to do 3-d drawings.
Not sure what you mean but its done by a profesional game artist for wasteland merc 2 mod. Not some newbie that did them, this guy was working in gaming industrie for a long time.

i agree with haris this guy does sum professional shit
i tip my hat to u...lemme just go get one...