Blade Runner: The Final Cut

[fallout ranger]

I like the movie for the movie, not for what anyone else thinks of it.

[AnneGwish]

I watched it for the first time a few weeks back, when the only thing that ever really got mentioned anymore was the name, but I enjoyed it, being what it was. I have a fondness for noir-styled flicks though. They tend to be better done than a standard action flick, from a visual standpoint.

[S4ur0n27]

lol

[Aonaran]

Instead it presented itself as the ultimate achievement in Science Fiction film and to me it just came across as arrogant and unwarranted.

i think youre projecting the reputation onto the movie, and its silly

You can't honestly tell me that film doesn't take itself VERY seriously. But no, I'm not projecting onto the film, the film projects onto the audience. The image it projects is "THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, WE'VE GOT CRYING ROBOTS, DOVES AND A RAIN MACHINE!". At best it's mildly amusing camp trying to pawn itself off as high art. How that generated a public gullible enough to buy 4 different cuts on as many as 5 different formats over the many years only speaks further towards its audience.

[Thor Kaufman]

Instead it presented itself as the ultimate achievement in Science Fiction film and to me it just came across as arrogant and unwarranted.

i think youre projecting the reputation onto the movie, and its silly

You can't honestly tell me that film doesn't take itself VERY seriously. But no, I'm not projecting onto the film, the film projects onto the audience. The image it projects is "THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, WE'VE GOT CRYING ROBOTS, DOVES AND A RAIN MACHINE!". At best it's mildly amusing camp trying to pawn itself off as high art. How that generated a public gullible enough to buy 4 different cuts on as many as 5 different formats over the many years only speaks further towards its audience.

I don't think the film takes itself seriously. The actors are all joke(r)s and many of the lines are extremely corny.

[johnnygothisgun]

Instead it presented itself as the ultimate achievement in Science Fiction film and to me it just came across as arrogant and unwarranted.

i think youre projecting the reputation onto the movie, and its silly

You can't honestly tell me that film doesn't take itself VERY seriously. But no, I'm not projecting onto the film, the film projects onto the audience. The image it projects is "THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, WE'VE GOT CRYING ROBOTS, DOVES AND A RAIN MACHINE!". At best it's mildly amusing camp trying to pawn itself off as high art. How that generated a public gullible enough to buy 4 different cuts on as many as 5 different formats over the many years only speaks further towards its audience.

he he he okeydabey

[Jeff]

You can't honestly tell me that film doesn't take itself VERY seriously. But no, I'm not projecting onto the film, the film projects onto the audience. The image it projects is "THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, WE'VE GOT CRYING ROBOTS, DOVES AND A RAIN MACHINE!". At best it's mildly amusing camp trying to pawn itself off as high art. How that generated a public gullible enough to buy 4 different cuts on as many as 5 different formats over the many years only speaks further towards its audience.

100% same could be said about teh robocop imo. except for crying, robo is too tuff for tha.t

[Wolfman Walt]

Don't most films take themselves seriousily? I don't remember too many "ha-ha" moments during the Godfather or Raging Bull.

[cazsim83]

I thought the only movies that didn't really take themselves seriously were the "That Teen Movie" stuff and "Scary Movie 13" and things like that.

I didn't think Blade Runner "took itself seriously" - I thought it was very well done, Harrison Ford and .. .eh...not Yule Brenner...damn....stupid drug addled memory.....the main "evil" robot - whatever the blonde guy that *spoiler* dies at the end....whatever.

I thought they were excellent actors - and everything played together very well, even the creepy introvert who made robotic toys and such.

Very "Shadowrun" feeling - perfect for what they were trying to do.

Five of Five stars.

[Smiley]

Blade Runner as everything else old and "at that time revolutionary", will always seem dull in the present.
Pure nostalgia, and I like it.

[Nameless_One]

Blade Runner as everything else old and "at that time revolutionary", will always seem dull in the present.
Pure nostalgia, and I like it.

I`m with Smiley at this.Especially at ''at that time revolutionary'' part.This movie gave a path to its own genre.

[PiP]

Blade Runner as everything else old and "at that time revolutionary", will always seem dull in the present.
Pure nostalgia, and I like it.

I have no idea what was revolutionary about Blade R. "at that time"; I like it because it's a sci-fi theme film which is not a made-for-popcorn-crowd colourful flick with cool FX and pompous acting. The overall "tired" tone is somewhat appealing to me. Some scenes - like Leon's interrogation - are great. Hauer's character - android struggling with different emotions in him - is quite interesting. I don't mind the doves and stuff. In this moment of impending death he gets poetical - like so many men when they take the time to reflect on their fate. It's only as pretentious as all domestic poets (and who's never tried to write a poem at some point?).
Disclaimer: I don't remember the film really well; need to re-watch it.

The film "at that time revolutionary" that I watched was Metropolis, and I was disappointed. I only liked some stage design.

[Thor Kaufman]

I think Hauer was just hired to be badass, no one buys into his emo personality that sometimes breaches through his hardcoreness in BR, I fink.

Also, of course BR is an 80s movie which is also reflected in its art, but the film still conveys a good atmosphere which is what counts and it doesn't consist of fuckin cgi. CGI looks synthetic for the most part and totally pales in comparison so I dont see your point about evolution in film regarding graffiixx, more like a regress. Give me a Terminator I robot stopmotion animation anytime over some fuckin stupid bullet-time shit computeranimation.

BR may not be a masterpiece like Dune, but it's still well worth watching. :nerdrage:

[PiP]

so I dont see your point about evolution in film regarding graffiixx, more like a regress.

if you're talking to me, I never meant graphics' evolution

[Thor Kaufman]

I don't know who I'm talking to, but someone mentioned the stage equipment(?) of BR iirc, but maybe not

What kind of evolution are you talking about

[Aonaran]

DP for good luck, kids!

[Aonaran]

You can't honestly tell me that film doesn't take itself VERY seriously. But no, I'm not projecting onto the film, the film projects onto the audience. The image it projects is "THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, WE'VE GOT CRYING ROBOTS, DOVES AND A RAIN MACHINE!". At best it's mildly amusing camp trying to pawn itself off as high art. How that generated a public gullible enough to buy 4 different cuts on as many as 5 different formats over the many years only speaks further towards its audience.

100% same could be said about teh robocop imo. except for crying, robo is too tuff for tha.t

Robocop knows it's camp and relishes in it. Blade Runner pulls out the smoke machine and tries to convince you it's being deep even when hurling the most blatant of action movie cliches directly in your face. While you, Citizen J. Internet, claim they are the same, it doesn't take a side by side, frame by frame analysis to realize one of these things is NOT like the other.

Case in point: "I'd buy that for a dollar!" and a million other satyrical comments on media saturation that are absolutely goddamn side-splitting vs. "TIME TO DIE" or "TEARS IN THE RAIN". Or how about the themes, the search for societal and individual identity in the wake of the military industrial complex vs. "do robots have feelings?". I'm sorry but even Japanese Anime does that tired shit better.

[Caleb]

I love the movie...however, unless they finally sort out all the tripe and a new version comes out endorsed by scott, i won't by it. Along those lines...they cut out enough from the book to make BR its own movie unto itself - it does not deserve to be linked with the book, which was thoroughly amazing...

[PiP]

Case in point: "I'd buy that for a dollar!" and a million other satyrical comments on media saturation that are absolutely goddamn side-splitting vs. "TIME TO DIE" or "TEARS IN THE RAIN"

Blade R. is not about "media saturation" but more about dying.
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Or how about the themes, the search for societal and individual identity in the wake of the military industrial complex vs. "do robots have feelings?". I'm sorry but even Japanese Anime does that tired shit better.

really? you got me genuinely interested. Because "I Will Smith" was a fucking joke btw.

[Nameless_One]

I don't know who I'm talking to, but someone mentioned the stage equipment(?) of BR iirc, but maybe not

What kind of evolution are you talking about