Some mmo news for those interested

cazsim83 · Post by **cazsim83** » Fri May 16, 2008 5:05 pm

I laughed at all the editing, for the record. Even when my own posts got edited.

editing FTW lol

Stainless · Post by **Stainless** » Sat May 17, 2008 1:16 am

Smiley wrote:I bet if Fo3 was actually a good game with some nice canon twist and got wildly popular, half the people here would instantly veer away from the game, because of its popularity, and come up with excuses for the rest.

It'll probably be shit though. If Fallout 3 is amazing, I'll play it and try and find every little detail I can. If it's just another game I'll play it once and once in a blue moon (like I do with Tactics). If it's shit, I'll probably lose interest in it half way through.

cazsim83 · Post by **cazsim83** » Sat May 17, 2008 6:01 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but F3 uses the same engine as Oblivion, yeah?

So the characters are going to move the same, background will have the same clarity, etc etc etc whatever.

It's the same reason why every game I have played using "The Unreal Engine" looks exactly the same. The enemies might be different, but everything else plays out the same way.

Is F3 better than nothing? Yeah. At the very least, it revives interest in an otherwise dead series. The kind of interest I'd like? No, not really. But I'm at least interested in exploring the wastes of F3 - Recently, I popped in Oblivion and just started running around the countryside looking at stuff. It was actually quite a bit more fun than the main quest IMO - and hopefully Bethesda has put a *LOT* of easter eggs in. That was probably my favorite part was finding the suicidal troll, giant crab, etc.

Smiley · Post by **Smiley** » Sat May 17, 2008 11:05 am

I meant hypothetically.
With the recent "You can't be evil" shit I doubt it'll be more than a passing interest.

Frater Perdurabo · Post by **Frater Perdurabo** » Sat May 17, 2008 5:43 pm

Smiley wrote:As for my armory;
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet ... n&n=Svavha

You do know that you are crittable, right? So in theory, you cannot tank. Seriously, you need to look over some gear of yours, 5/8 T6 is nice but it's not of much good if you're not crit immune. You need -2.6% chance to be critted, which translates to 415 def rating, or less with some resilience. Definately try to replace Furies deck with Bloodboil's trinket and get rid of that Idol. Idol of Terror has been better ever since it came out with 2.3 and it's onlt 15 badges. You should have those sitting in bank from all the raiding.

Anyway, here's mine:
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet ... d&n=Ardtor
I just joined a new raiding guild recently, we are currently 4/6 SWP with consistent progress on M'uru. That fight is a bitch :E

I just made a Priest recently as well, dinged 70 a couple of days ago and I just grinded the whole night to get my epic flyer, cannot play without it.

Thor Kaufman · Post by **Thor Kaufman** » Sat May 17, 2008 7:00 pm

Smiley · Post by **Smiley** » Sat May 17, 2008 10:22 pm

Frater Perdurabo wrote:
Smiley wrote:As for my armory;
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet ... n&n=Svavha
You do know that you are crittable, right? So in theory, you cannot tank. Seriously, you need to look over some gear of yours, 5/8 T6 is nice but it's not of much good if you're not crit immune. You need -2.6% chance to be critted, which translates to 415 def rating, or less with some resilience. Definately try to replace Furies deck with Bloodboil's trinket and get rid of that Idol. Idol of Terror has been better ever since it came out with 2.3 and it's onlt 15 badges. You should have those sitting in bank from all the raiding.

I'll let you find some examples yourself.
I really can't be bothered. Few high-guild druids are completely immune.

First off, you don't need to be uncrittable. Neither for trash, nor bosses.
Near uncrittable is just fine.
Second, I have defense trinkets just for bosses.
Thirdly, there's additional defense from flask.

Bloodboil's trinket has dropped once, which went to a warrior who left the guild. RoS neck hasn't dropped yet.

As for idol, Brutality is far better threat generation, I don't like how rarely Idol of Terror procs, which by the way sucks compared to the White Stag one.
Unless of course you mean for the dodge, which is just lol.

Anyway, here's mine:
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet ... d&n=Ardtor
I just joined a new raiding guild recently, we are currently 4/6 SWP with consistent progress on M'uru. That fight is a bitch :E

I just made a Priest recently as well, dinged 70 a couple of days ago and I just grinded the whole night to get my epic flyer, cannot play without it.

Looks good.
I don't look forwards to sunwell, it's tuned for elitist guilds who can't go without optimal setups for everything.
I honestly can't be bothered with that kind of raiding. I'm hoping WotLK will have less of that, and more variety.

Seriously, screw the guilds who are pining for world first kills, and let's have some more freedom for raid setups. If you can't beat a raid instance drunk, it's not worth it

Frater Perdurabo · Post by **Frater Perdurabo** » Mon May 19, 2008 4:48 pm

Smiley wrote:I'll let you find some examples yourself.
I really can't be bothered. Few high-guild druids are completely immune.

First off, you don't need to be uncrittable. Neither for trash, nor bosses.
Near uncrittable is just fine.
Second, I have defense trinkets just for bosses.
Thirdly, there's additional defense from flask.

Bloodboil's trinket has dropped once, which went to a warrior who left the guild. RoS neck hasn't dropped yet.

As for idol, Brutality is far better threat generation, I don't like how rarely Idol of Terror procs, which by the way sucks compared to the White Stag one.
Unless of course you mean for the dodge, which is just lol.

Pretty much the answer I was expecting to be honest

Well, basically I'll just put it this way, Idol of Terror is WAY better than Idol of Brutality. You can't even compare the two. It has something like a 50% chance to proc, which gives 5.5% dodge for like 10sec (don't underestimate) and more threat generation from pure raw damage than Idol of Brutality, especially since Lacerate was buffed last patch and is no longer useless. The dodge is especially useful with the Sunwell debuff. You just can't do without it.
However, I sort of see your point. I guess that you don't have a lot of expertise on your tanking gear? You should really try to get some, it helps loads of with threat generation. And try to get some hit as well, if you are having aggro problems, the difference is as obvious as black and white. If you don't have decent expertise, you have a high chance of missing those Mangles which means loads of threat loss and very few trinket procs. But to be honest, I even use Idol of Terror for grinding now (since cba Shred grind, takes too long) and it's wonderful. Just give it a try.

Oh and Wild Stag is just lol. It's a joke item. Last time it dropped, I chose to have it disenchanted because I did not want to spend min dkp on that piece of shit.

I can see where you are coming from with the crittability thing so I won't really discuss it because you know the advantages and disadvantages yourself. However, you can be sure that a crit at a bad time will cause a wipe. We had a fire elemental crit one of the tanks on Illidan for 20k and it caused an instant wipe (because even when you are "crit immune", there's still like a 0.05% chance to be critted).

Smiley wrote: Looks good.
I don't look forwards to sunwell, it's tuned for elitist guilds who can't go without optimal setups for everything.
I honestly can't be bothered with that kind of raiding. I'm hoping WotLK will have less of that, and more variety.

Seriously, screw the guilds who are pining for world first kills, and let's have some more freedom for raid setups. If you can't beat a raid instance drunk, it's not worth it

This is a serious, serious misconception. I love Sunwell because of it's difficulty, I think that the fights are perfectly tuned (which I guess does make it an elitist playground because one mistake will wipe the raid), but I disagree with raid stacking. Sure, Shamen are EXTREMELY useful for Sunwell (what people say about M'uru is that you bring 6 healers and all of them can be Shamen) because of the intense raid damage and because Heroism works wonders when achieving DPS checks, but M'uru is a very exceptional fight. Well, we don't know anything about KJ yet, but hey, M'uru world first had 0 Druids and world 2nd had 3 Druids? It does not require raid stacking. The world 2nd guild even said that you could go there with 3 tanks, 6 Shamen and 16 Hunters. We have spent a lot of nights on M'uru and we have tried different tactics, they all work, it's just about making it work for you.

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Mon May 19, 2008 5:13 pm

My e-penis is bigger than yours lol.

Smiley · Post by **Smiley** » Mon May 19, 2008 8:13 pm

I'm not gonna discuss this

My tanking is working perfectly, and I have not died to a crit since karazhan.

Hell, I even survived eyebeams back when we started illidan. ;D

This is a serious, serious misconception. I love Sunwell because of it's difficulty, I think that the fights are perfectly tuned (which I guess does make it an elitist playground because one mistake will wipe the raid)

Contradict much?

Like I said, it's centered around world 1st kills.
We're trying Kalecgos now, and the trash up to is not only repetative, but boring as fuck.. I really don't like sunwell so far.

Nicolai · Post by **Nicolai** » Mon May 19, 2008 9:05 pm

this is a pretty terrible thread

Thor Kaufman · Post by **Thor Kaufman** » Mon May 19, 2008 9:21 pm

Feelings Online

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Mon May 19, 2008 9:23 pm

Nicolai wrote:this is a pretty terrible thread

Thank you for the internet.

NakedLunch · Post by **NakedLunch** » Mon May 19, 2008 10:47 pm

Let's start again:

Guys I think my girlfriend is cheating on me what should I do?

Redeye · Post by **Redeye** » Mon May 19, 2008 11:11 pm

NakedLunch wrote:Let's start again:

Guys I think my girlfriend is cheating on me what should I do?

Cheat on her.

Then give her flowers and embrace her and touch the tip of your nose to the tip of her nose while looking longingly in her eyes. Then say "I love you".

Laugh on the inside as you have pornographic fantasies about other women.

NakedLunch · Post by **NakedLunch** » Mon May 19, 2008 11:17 pm

but i think she might be the one so i don't want to fuck it up just so i can have the last laugh because like they say, nothing truly ever ends

Redeye · Post by **Redeye** » Mon May 19, 2008 11:48 pm

So just ask her.

If she's really "the one", she won't get offended.

Otherwise...

move on

Frater Perdurabo · Post by **Frater Perdurabo** » Tue May 20, 2008 12:26 am

Smiley wrote:I'm not gonna discuss this
My tanking is working perfectly, and I have not died to a crit since karazhan.

Hell, I even survived eyebeams back when we started illidan. ;D

This is a serious, serious misconception. I love Sunwell because of it's difficulty, I think that the fights are perfectly tuned (which I guess does make it an elitist playground because one mistake will wipe the raid)
Contradict much?

Like I said, it's centered around world 1st kills.
We're trying Kalecgos now, and the trash up to is not only repetative, but boring as fuck.. I really don't like sunwell so far.

No, I'm not contradicting. You said that it requires generic raid stacking, I say that it doesn't.
Anyway, at least be happy that Kalecgos trash is relatively easy :E
Twins trash is half an hour of chainpulling. You literally get 4-5 opportunities to drink, you only live by constant potting and 6min Innervates.
M'uru's is different on the other hand. It's a bitch and will take you ages to master, but it's very short. It's literally only like 6-7 pulls so you're done in no time.

By the way, I got T6 feral chest tonight, 2piece now :>

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Tue May 20, 2008 6:19 pm

NakedLunch wrote:Let's start again:

Guys I think my girlfriend is cheating on me what should I do?

Stop being such a crappy lover.