Duck and Cover

Ghouls have a complex secret underground economy revolving around the sale and transport of dead humans, which are used for consumption. They've managed to keep their zombie sides very quiet in Fallout and Fallout 2. Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel will involve the uncovering of the zombie-like aspects of the ghouls.

What are zombies, anyway?

Zombies belong to D&D and all that shit. I don't want ghouls being similar to zombies. After all, ghouls were humans once(still are?), and are not some mindless undead axe-food. The aesthetic similarities are there, but are still quite different from each other. Both have greenish skin/flesh, but as far as I know ghouls aren't rotten, just mutated. The biggest difference is in their intellectual level. Zombies are mindless creatures that can only understand a command or two from their master. Ghouls on the other hand can interact with each other, barter, organize etc. They just aren't popular among humans, which explains their status in Fallout-society.

Chuck seems to think ghouls as zombies, which is understandable from someone who doesn't have a clue about Fallout.

VasikkA wrote:Chuck seems to think ghouls as zombies, which is understandable from someone who doesn't have a clue about Fallout.

Actually, if he did it would be better.
But, Ghouls in FoBoS are not treated like zombies, but rather like regular humans with a different look.

Well, ghouls aren't really zombies, zombies can't think.... I believe ghouls hold a special place in the Fallout universe as well as mutants like Harold. You don't see them ripping apart village folk or any nonesense like that.

To remove the ghouls would be like sayin' the Vault Dweller never wore a vault suit.

That part about not tearing down villages or whatever is most correct. Ghouls are peaceful (or maybe just lazy?) people but they're still really interesting and pack lots of charisma story-wise.

I've always been suspicious of the ghouls.
They've probably got some deep, dark secrets.
They probably hate all humans. It's envy, jealousy.
That bit where Harold talks about wanting my skin.
That's where his true feelings come out.
Haves and have nots. Those with skin and those without. The have nots will fight.
If they can't have it, nobody can.

ghouls are peaceful, forgotten, quiet trodden-on loners. The world hates them, and as a result ghouls have, for the most part, cut themselves off from the rest of the world.

It's not envy they have. They're happy (in F2) and have made peace with themselves. Ghoul society is certainly a lot more peaceful and efficient than human society.

atoga wrote:ghouls are peaceful, forgotten, quiet trodden-on loners. The world hates them, and as a result ghouls have, for the most part, cut themselves off from the rest of the world.

It's not envy they have. They're happy (in F2) and have made peace with themselves. Ghoul society is certainly a lot more peaceful and efficient than human society.

Proof that the master was right? I think so.

Yeah, the Master however didn't seem to care about ghouls and it'd be wise to say ghouls depending on their personality can be nice or mean.

For example, Set and Harold are two different creatures. Set felt it was prudent to take a firm stance and manipulate the Vault Dweller, which in turn, incured the wrath of the Unity... But there have to be anti-human ghoul groups.

the Master certainly didn't like ghouls.
ghouls were physically weak, but they have a great deal of ingenuity and are often in the right place at the right time - thus, they have perservered.

Yup. Master considered ghouls below humans, although Marcus in FO2 talks about Lenny as his "brother in evolving" or something. Weird.

i think the ghouls looked kinda like all the other ghouls in 1 and 2

don't post dig. don't attract the wrath of the community.

Ghould are Kick Ass if i coulkd be a ghoul in fo3 i would. they should get bonuses to perception and int but lowered st and en. Also rad and pos resistance would be upped