Liberalism in America

Crusader · Post by **Crusader** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 2:24 am

They both have pros and cons. Thats why we have both of them. To keep things stable.

airsoft guy · Post by **airsoft guy** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 2:25 am

The Libertarian Party are the good kind of liberals, that's the kind you want to be. The other kind, like a good number of Democrats are really socialists.

InvisibleMonkey · Post by **InvisibleMonkey** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 2:28 am

Yeah, I'd vote for a Libertarian, I don't like Democrats or Republicans, but this is a Democratic and Republican country.

Ruben Rooben Reuben · Post by **Ruben Rooben Reuben** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 2:50 am

I like what Will Rogers said about it: "This country has gotten great in spite of politics, not because of it."

Then he threw a rope around a mosquito or something.

Crusader · Post by **Crusader** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 2:52 am

Does the Republican believe the power should belong to the country or the state?

airsoft guy · Post by **airsoft guy** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 3:02 am

The Libertarians are gaining though, sure right now they don't have the clout to run for president, or governor in many places, like the PRK, Ned Roscoe got less than 1%, but the PRK dosn't really matter in my book, they're mostly idiots there anyway.

Icabod · Post by **Icabod** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 4:25 am

Libertarians fight to fix Americas problems through desperate means, if they had their way we would just be a particularly unorganised socialism.

Republicans want to fix Americas problems at the expense of the poor.

Democrats are deluded that everyone can live happily all the time in a democracy, the "rainbow government" effect.

Pick your poison.

InvisibleMonkey · Post by **InvisibleMonkey** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 4:28 am

Libertarian still seems to be the best.

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 4:29 am

Crusader wrote:Does the Republican believe the power should belong to the country or the state?

The days of Republicans being the party of smaller-government conservatives are over. Of course Ron Paul, I believe he was once a Libertarian party presidential candidate, says it better than I can.

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congr ... 071003.htm

It's long, but I found it to be very interesting.

Icabod wrote:Libertarians fight to fix Americas problems through desperate means, if they had their way we would just be a particularly unorganised socialism.

Do you really understand what Libertarians believe in?

Icabod · Post by **Icabod** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 4:34 am

Doyle wrote:
Icabod wrote:Libertarians fight to fix Americas problems through desperate means, if they had their way we would just be a particularly unorganised socialism.
Do you really understand what Libertarians believe in?

Tell me then, and 90% of libertarians will disagree with you. Their problem is that they have no real agenda, their specialty is the small problems. They have no game plan because they have no one powerful enough in office to create one. They are the modern day equivalent to the Anarchists of the 1930's, a chaotic heirarchy in short.

Ozrat · Post by **Ozrat** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:17 pm

Just remember, there would be no America if it wasn't for the damned extreme liberals that challenged the conservative Brittish...

airsoft guy · Post by **airsoft guy** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 10:21 pm

That's true, but wrong kind of Liberal, they were more of the Libertarian bunch, not these fuckwit Liberals of today. Modern day Liberals are more along the lines of Socialists and Communists. Durp.

Nuclear Gandhi · Post by **Nuclear Gandhi** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 11:29 pm

Icabod wrote:Libertarians fight to fix Americas problems through desperate means, if they had their way we would just be a particularly unorganised socialism.

Tell me HOW this is Socialism again...? Oh wait! You didn't tell anyone how Libertarians are Socialists!

Are you stupid or something? They are AGAINST a central government! First of all, consult your dictionary for the definition of Socialism, and second of all, find out what Libertarians want to do with the country you fuck tiw.

airsoft guy · Post by **airsoft guy** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 11:49 pm

Here, this might give you some insight into what the party is all about. http://www.lp.org/issues/

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 12:37 am

I think his point is that the result of a libertarian-controlled government would be disorganized socialism. That's just a guess, though, it's still a pretty cryptic statement to me.

Nuclear Gandhi · Post by **Nuclear Gandhi** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 1:03 am

More like a FSDFSDFSING stupid statement. Libertarians want to get rid of income tax, social security, and health care. HOW again is this Socialism? They are for free enterprise if you're wondering...

the guardian · Post by **the guardian** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 3:56 pm

Won't uh, getting rid of this things be sort of terribly bad? I was under the impression that, say, health care is important, but I could be wrong.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 5:24 pm

COMMUNISM

lol

I can already feel the flames burning meh

Doc Hill · Post by **Doc Hill** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 7:09 pm

First, let me preface this by saying that I've been gone for a longass time.I'm sure nobody noticed or cared, be that as it may, I'll throw my proverbial two cents into this.

I'm a Rational Anarchist, I'd go into the definition, but I don't have fifteen minute to type it out.Lets just say I'm pissed off by Republicans and Democrats.I don't mind governments, as long as they stay out of my way, and I'm sick of the garbage.In my opinion, the Liberals are too often weak, and disorginaized, while the Republicans....I can sum up their problen in one word,Bush.The fact is, the government works....barely.It's held together by the will of the people, and alot of the assholes have forgotten that.Not that it's entirely their fault, this has been a steady process.But corruption has always reined,take Tammany Hall into account,and that supposedly the stronghold of democrats.Our greates leader to date was a sax playing,floozy chasing, good ol' boy.I liked him, but that was because he was more human thatn the robots we've been stuck with.I know I coming off as a rhetoric spouting idiot, unfotunately,there's no way to make my argument without sounding like that.I'd prefer Communism, but it'd never work in real life, we're all greedy, and would want more than Joe Stalin down the road.I like Britains government, at least fro an asthetic point of view, and I like Canada, our little gay cousin to the north.But I'll stick around here to watch the fireworks.Sure, our government may never topple, but it teeters a whole hell of alot, and it's funny to watch.Sorry if I didn't make much sense, but that's just the way I work.

-Tired as hell,leg hurting, on second beer, and wondering why the hell John Doe got pulled.The Doc.-

the guardian · Post by **the guardian** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 7:27 pm

They need you in that place that you went to. I suggest you go help them there again.

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