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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:10 am
by Cimmerian Nights
Redeye wrote:Maybe run it through a Grey Kangaroo a few times...


(That guy reminds me of P.J. O'Rourke.)
With his drinking habits it just may be.

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:03 am
by Superhaze
Urizen wrote:it's actually pretty common here in scandinavia.
What? Philipino beer? :drunk:

Lately due to my relocation, I have taken a new liking to the local beer.
Though relativly blandt and light, its still pretty damn good at 25kr a pint
at most student friendly pubs and nightclubs in town.

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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:54 pm
by Goretheglowingone
Machiavelli wrote:I'm not sure how to pasteurize. I'll have to look that one up. The one time I had Shine, it didn't even have any taste so it was pretty pure I think.
its actually quite simple, instead of boiling it,
just get it near boiling, as in right before it starts to boil, and keep it there
for a while.. if you want i can get you specifics.

there are plenty of mead brewing web sites out there iv found them helpful from time to time.

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:33 pm
by Machiavelli
Most of the mead web sites I've been to assume I'm already a brewing genius or something. Are there any good beginning sites? Yeah the specifics would be helpful if you have the time. I've always associated pasturizing with the larger brewers and thought it was an expensive process. That may just be for manufacturing.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:36 pm
by First Force
if you find the beer too bitter try one thats more fruity, if its to strong try one thats lighter, there are so many different types of beer, but hey you don`t HAVE to like beer.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:54 pm
by Subhuman
If you want to call yourself a man, you do. Them's the breaks.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:05 pm
by Urizen
Superhaze wrote:
Urizen wrote:it's actually pretty common here in scandinavia.
What? Philipino beer? :drunk:

Lately due to my relocation, I have taken a new liking to the local beer.
Though relativly blandt and light, its still pretty damn good at 25kr a pint
at most student friendly pubs and nightclubs in town.

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sure. most better food stores have it, and some pubs as well. San Miguel, that is.

also, if you can find it, be sure to try Aass, which is brewed in my own hometown, at norway's oldest brewery:
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:01 pm
by PiP
Subhuman wrote:If you want to call yourself a man, you do. Them's the breaks.
ooh I can't wait for DACer's response to that. Coming from you ;)

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:11 pm
by fallout ranger
Urizen wrote:also, if you can find it, be sure to try Aass, which is brewed in my own hometown, at norway's oldest brewery:
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if i like it, can I say "Damn, that's some good Aass!"?

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:16 am
by Subhuman
And if you don't, can you say it tastes like Aass?

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:35 am
by VasikkA
Subhuman wrote:And if you don't, can you say it tastes like Aass?
Depends on the Aass. :eyebrow:

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:22 pm
by atoga
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now there's a real man's drink

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:25 pm
by Dreadnought
atoga wrote:Image
now there's a real man's drink
:lol:

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:27 pm
by atoga
you have a problem with fermented rat urine? fuckn swell guy

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:39 pm
by Dreadnought
No, the lol smiley is misleading. I was in fact supporting you with some cheerful laughter. fookn poof

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:09 pm
by Machiavelli
Billy Dee Williams drinks Colt 45 so that's what I drink. :drunk:

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:20 pm
by Goretheglowingone
Machiavelli wrote:Most of the mead web sites I've been to assume I'm already a brewing genius or something. Are there any good beginning sites? Yeah the specifics would be helpful if you have the time. I've always associated pasturizing with the larger brewers and thought it was an expensive process. That may just be for manufacturing.

this is as specific a discription as i could find.




What you need to make Mead

If you are already homebrewing you will have most, if not all, the tools you will need to make a batch of mead. You will need a kettle to mix in (we will discuss the various ways you can make it in a moment), a spoon, a wort chiller (nice, but there are ways around this), a hydrometer (if you care, I never did until I went pro), a carboy (I prefer glass), airlock, stopper and ingredients. The ingredients list of course is based on what style you want to make but some things will be a constant and that would be a yeast nutrient of some sort. Honey is very low in nutrients that yeast like to begin feeding on. What we do around the meadery is start the yeast with some Yeastex from Crosby and Baker so it is awake and hungry by the time we add it to the cooled must. In the summer time we begin to see active fermentation within an hour after pitching.

Vanilla Bean Cinnamon Stick Mountain Honey Wine

One of the traditions I started early in my mead making career was producing Winter Solstice Mead. Every December 21 I make mead. For many years I would make a 10-gallon batch leaving half o it traditional and half with either vanilla beans or vanilla beans and cinnamon sticks. I would age it two years and then serve it at the annual Winter Solstice party from a special bottle.

I use two parts alfalfa honey to one part wildflower honey. Now as I've already said, different honeys taste differently. These particular honeys were from Colorado. Something I haven't said, of course, is that you can make it as strong or as light as you like. It just depends on what you like and how long you are willing to wait for it. Given that this is meant to be a winter mead I'd suggest using at least 3 pounds of honey per gallon of water. That should give you at least 12 percent alcohol by volume, but don't be afraid to use another pound per gallon either. Maybe two!

You will also need three to four whole vanilla beans as well as three to four cinnamon sticks. You should be able to find these ingredients in the bulk section of Wild Oats type markets or check online. Don't be freaked out by the price per pound of the vanilla beans. Though $200 per pound, it should still only be about $10 for a 5-gallon batch.

Yeast nutrient will be needed but as a homebrewer you can do something as simple as using some extra light malt extract. A tablespoon per 5 gallons should do. The last ingredient necessary is the yeast. Much like different honeys have different flavor profiles so too will different yeasts impart different flavors. For this particular mead I like using a blend of Montrachet and Sherry yeast. This mead is the most versatile in terms of what temperature to serve it at. It is nice at cellar temperature, slightly warmed around 110*F, or, in the summer, served over ice.

Specifics

Now it's time to make the mead. There are three basic theories on how to make mead: adding sulfites, pasteurizing and boiling. I've had good mead made all three ways but my personal preference is the pasteurization method. Bring 4 gallons of water up to 180*F in your kettle and then add 12 pounds of honey. It helps to preheat the honey, especially if it has crystallized. I like to soak mine in hot water to get it nice and pourable.

It is important to make sure to take your kettle off of the heat and stir vigorously, so that the honey gets dissolved. Mostly you want to make sure that you do not burn any of the honey on the bottom of the kettle. Cover for 20 to 30 minutes at around 150* to 160* F. Now is a good time to start your yeast. For mead I like to use dry yeast. Take two 5-gram packets of Montrachet and one 5-gram packet of Sherry yeast. Mix with a tablespoon of extra light malt extract. Stir vigorously so as to introduce oxygen. Yeast likes oxygen to begin feeding.

After the pasteurization period, cool the must to the mid-70s and pour into the carboy. Leave some room at the top. Add the yeast and shake the hell out of the carboy. I place a towel under the carboy and shake it in such a way as to introduce oxygen to the product. Don't be surprised at this point if you find the one weak spot in the carboy and you find your fresh must all over your knees. Certainly don't blame me: I warned you. Personally I like to use a 6.5-gallon carboy to make 5 gallons of mead. This way you lose nothing to blowoff. Place the airlock on and prepare to be patient.

Primary fermentation most likely will take three to four months. Try to keep the fermentation temperature between 70* and 78* F if possible. After primary, transfer to a 5-gallon carboy that already has the vanilla beans and cinnamon sticks in it. Just toss the cinnamon sticks in whole. Cut the vanilla beans into thirds before adding. The vanilla beans in particular need the alcohol in the mead to help extract the flavor. Let it sit for three months or so. Transfer off the spices. If you have an ice cream maker use the vanilla beans to make some incredible ice cream.

At this point how many transfers you make is up to you. How clear is the mead? Has it absolutely stopped fermenting? You need to make sure it has stopped fermenting before bottling or you will wind up with a sparkling mead. One way to accomplish this is with the addition of potassium sorbate. The other is by being patient. Most likely you will transfer a couple more times and then bottle. The biggest determinant for how long it will be is how much honey you put in. Certainly you should figure on one to two years.




. i found this at http://www.realbeer.com/edu/mead/worththewait.php



im glad to help.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:24 pm
by Machiavelli
Thanks I appreciate it now if I can just get back my brewing space from my mother in law......

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:06 pm
by Amis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsingtao_beer Chinese beer but Originally brewed by the germans or something like that.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:29 pm
by fallout ranger
I've had Samuel Adams winter lager, and it's pretty good. I'd like to try their Utopias too.