All Our Base Are Belong to China!

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:42 pm

Pretty much that's true. I was planning to join when I was 18 until I realized that I had to pay like a hundred dollar fee. It's just easier to join my local gun club and I agree, it's hard to get an ACCURATE number, however it should be within reason that theres ALOT of guns in America and the figure isn't out of the realm of possibility.

airsoft guy · Post by **airsoft guy** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:44 pm

The NRA only has about four million members last I heard. I forgot where I got that number, might have been one of their magazines, might have been online, but it's nowhere near the actual number of gun owners, that's for sure.

The point is there's a shitload of us, probably more than anyone thinks because there are people who buy a gun and don't tell nobody about it, they're not a member of the NRA or GOA or anything like that. It just sits in the closet waiting for doomsday or whatever.

Redeye · Post by **Redeye** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:46 am

Ranger wrote:O.k. aparently there are people on this list who like to take things too seriously. 2+2=3 is impossible. It's hard scientific fact. I was refering to things that don't have constant natural laws and effects behind them. In a well thought out and planned war my tactic of riding the tank would be infeasible. The tank would never be far enough away from it's own lines or troops for it to ever happen. But in order to get things like that over here, a lot of nukes and other such destructive devices would have to be used that would devastate the infrastructure to the point where a lone tank riding around on it's own is possible. Let me just finish with never underestimate the power of the populace. History is full of examples of "hillbilly Bob and his ragtag army of rednecks" defeating larger and better equiped and trained profesional armies. (The American Revolution ring a bell anyone?)

I was just kidding about the numbers.

As for the Amer. Revolution, the bit about ragtag militias is overblown. The regular, more organized Rev.Army was more effective.
But I admit I really like the semi-myth of cunning hicks sniping away at lock-step jarhead Redcoats.

PS:That's semi-myth, not myth.

As for the Invasion USA thingy, has anyone seen that film?
Chuck Norris! Paranoia!

I do wonder one thing about the Armed Public dealie- it has to do with the power of myth. If cultural indoctrination has prepared people with a certain vision of themselves it can become true-ish under the right circumstances. Even if it is kinda bullshit.
We might even get our own suicide bombers.
Fun, Fun, Fun!

Hey, why wait?
Too bad we don't have any seriously crazy yet highly skilled militias.
It would be great if a bunch of crackers hit the Petronas Towers, etc.
Wouldn't that be fuckin' funny? The US a haven for the Budweiser Bund.
The news would be full of pictures of genetic freaks in camo with skoal tshirts and feed caps.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:04 am

Patrick Swayze made it look fun in Red Dawn, so why not?

johnnygothisgun · Post by **johnnygothisgun** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:42 am

Yeah, folks, if we're assuming every gun in the United States is registered, we'd be very, very wrong.

Redeye · Post by **Redeye** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:37 am

johnnygothisgun wrote:Yeah, folks, if we're assuming every gun in the United States is registered, we'd be very, very wrong.

Indeed. Many people would even just keep an illegal item around just as a fetish object. Just for the illicit thrill.
I wonder about even an economy emerging out of anti-PC spite in which things like Dragon Shells become currency. Not to use, just as something between barter and coinage.
In Germany I wonder if cds of martial music, violent graphic games, nazi regalia, etc. are traded like this. "Ve are bombing of zee Eng-e-land!"
I really want a copy of that song.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:21 pm

GUNS

ApTyp · Post by **ApTyp** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:58 pm

Come down to U.S., I'll sell you one, Susan

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:04 pm

I have an ol' Thompson .22 actually

Which isn't technically mine, nor legally, but still

ApTyp · Post by **ApTyp** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:35 pm

I'll get you AK47 or a .44 magnum, congoid

Just bring money, okay.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:41 pm

ApTyp · Post by **ApTyp** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:44 pm

Chit, lost another one to Geico!

Ranger · Post by **Ranger** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:41 pm

So maybe the Armerican Revolution wasn't the best example, but it was the first one that came to mind. It is true however that the irregular units of the continental army (riflemen, scouts, rangers, frontiersmen) when utilised properly were more effective than the rank and file soldiers whos only job was to walk forward and get shot. The millitias could have driven out the british eventually, but it would have taken years or possibly even decades to accomplish depending on how many forces the crown decided to send here. Maybe a better example would be the germanic tribes which defeated the romans and eventually sacked Rome, or the Afganis that drove out the soviet union, or the viet cong, or the Spartans when they defeated Athens. My point is, is that it all depends on who wants it more, who has more drive and determination, not so much the equipment. No, I never saw that chuck norris movie, but I have seen Red Dawn. Red Dawn was fun, but not very realisitic, and it seemed to be more of a sounding board for the NRA and the Reagan Administration. One parting thought, why is it if hillbilly bob is such a myth, that truly oppresive regimes work so hard and quick to put down rebelions before they can gain steam?

Redeye · Post by **Redeye** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:33 pm

Ranger wrote:So maybe the Armerican Revolution wasn't the best example, but it was the first one that came to mind. It is true however that the irregular units of the continental army (riflemen, scouts, rangers, frontiersmen) when utilised properly were more effective than the rank and file soldiers whos only job was to walk forward and get shot. The millitias could have driven out the british eventually, but it would have taken years or possibly even decades to accomplish depending on how many forces the crown decided to send here. Maybe a better example would be the germanic tribes which defeated the romans and eventually sacked Rome, or the Afganis that drove out the soviet union, or the viet cong, or the Spartans when they defeated Athens. My point is, is that it all depends on who wants it more, who has more drive and determination, not so much the equipment. No, I never saw that chuck norris movie, but I have seen Red Dawn. Red Dawn was fun, but not very realisitic, and it seemed to be more of a sounding board for the NRA and the Reagan Administration. One parting thought, why is it if hillbilly bob is such a myth, that truly oppresive regimes work so hard and quick to put down rebelions before they can gain steam?

Gotta nip those uprisings in the bud.
The power of myth. Fiction becomes truth.
I think it's possible that some of it is like a social/political equivalent of an immune reaction. The white blood cells/security forces just naturally react to that sort of thing.

"Ideas are more dangerous than guns, why should they be allowed?"
-Joe

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:24 pm

Learn to use "enter", douchebag!

Nicolai · Post by **Nicolai** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:54 pm

Yeah.
Why are you typing like this?

CrazyNick · Post by **CrazyNick** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:00 am

guns are like beer.

Fun to have but dangerous to have in the hands of idiots

S4ur0n27 you have a thompson .22?
is that a tommy gun or a assualt rifle? I can't remeber

ApTyp · Post by **ApTyp** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:39 am

It's a single shot rifle, congoid

CrazyNick · Post by **CrazyNick** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:20 am

damn... thought ya had a tommy gun.

Those things are tottaly kickass. Just cause of their complete uselessness except for crime

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:37 am

ApTyp wrote:It's a single shot rifle, congoid

Some say it's fun to shoot crows with a silenced & scoped .22 rifle. You drop one and the ones next to it won't fly away, they just look at their falling comrade "wtf mats?" and sit tight for the surprising and unescapable doom!