Signs of a future Superpower

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD · Wed Oct 08, 2003 4:30 am

given half a chance walt i would create a party and attempt to be elected through telling the population bullshit like all the leaders of all the countries now do. people just dont notice because they are all crack using whores who have no sense of reality.

and yes i never said i wouldnt run the government without violence. anyone who stood against me would die so i would have no competition.
anyone who is stupid enough to protest my reign would also die.
hippies and the rest of the useless drug using population would also die.

so overall if i had to use fascism to get a communist utopia i would do it without regret.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 4:45 am

The problem with that is that it wouldn't be a Utopia. You'de just be creating a society that doesn't work where you'de be the only one who benefits because everyone has to listen to your rule.

airsoft guy · Post by **airsoft guy** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 4:47 am

Well, if that's how you're going to run things, then I hope your face is made of Kevlar.

Soldier87 · Post by **Soldier87** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 5:38 am

Mandalorian there is no flaming aloud in moderated rooms, so dont call me a moron becuase i am arguing, what are you afraid of a little argument, hah! sounds like a communist, they are to afraid of arguing so they try and take whoever is arguing with them over. First China, NK, and Cuba are communist, communism doesnt work becuase of todays standards for gov are more democratic, thats why tryanny doesnt work. second, i know wolfman becuase my dad and uncle is in iraq, well only my uncle now, my dad came back two months ago and told us a very long story. Now mandalorian, dont talk to me about going off topic, you kept on saying communism is a utopia, why dont you try and stay on topic, then you began calling people morons for having a different perspective. and then once again, every damn person in here begins ganging up on me.

Edit: Mandalorian, first of all, if your going to begin a coup, you need people who support you, and thats doubtful, but i can see why you would go to the uneducated crowd, to corrupt the minds of young innocent people. then you have to fight, so "IF" you survive, and "WIN" then you have to offer the people something, otherwise, theyll just get together some pitchforks and bang, your gone, and you dont sound like you have much to offer, just another stalin, so you wont get far, at all. and you sound like its all so easy. well its your dreams i guess. dream on, just lets keep it that way, for your sake, and ours.

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 5:58 am

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD wrote:anyone who stood against me would die so i would have no competition.

That's basically been the strategy for previous communist regimes. Tens of millions of "class enemies" were murdered in the 20th century, and so far none of these slaughters has produced anything resembling a utopia. Maybe you'll get lucky, though.

Soldier87 · Post by **Soldier87** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:05 am

Let's hope for the better of humanity, if he tries, then he dies before he gets anywhere.

Calal · Post by **Calal** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 10:18 am

Soldier87 wrote: Edit: Mandalorian, first of all, if your going to begin a coup, you need people who support you, and thats doubtful, but i can see why you would go to the uneducated crowd, to corrupt the minds of young innocent people.

I don' t know. The October Revolution got started by russian students and intellectuals so that' s a prime example that you don' t need to appeal to the undereducated. Hitler started his Putsch just the same way; intellectuals that hung out in beerhalls to discuss politics. Later on he got the support of highly influencal officers in the army, corporations, the bourgouis population,...

Quite funny that it allways started out with intellectuals yet they were also the first to become deported or elliminated once the revolution was a fact.

Soldier87 · Post by **Soldier87** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 3:10 pm

Yeah, but i mean in today's standards of gov. its all about democracy and money. now remember though, that those revolutions still corrupted the minds of people on one fateful promise, of a better system and riches. yet in the end, we know how they turned out. however, i guess, that today, if you can find a radical intellectual, which might be hard to find, then perhaps you can do some damage, but i dont know why you would want to take away people's freedoms just so you can please yourself, but i guess thats how tryants think.

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 4:41 pm

revolutions are kinda stupid, they just shift the power around too someone else. Nothing much changes. A better idea would be not too try and start a revolution, as you'd sort of be killed? Mabye try being a politician yourself, or crash a plane into china or something bizarro. I don't think governments at the moment work too well. Better than kings and dictators, but I feel there could be something better? Mabye give everyone more freedom and chances to experience things instead of pandering to a specific majority or something.

Mandalorian there is no flaming aloud in moderated rooms

Haven't been here long eh? lol jk nazi

Forty-six & Two · Post by **Forty-six & Two** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 4:51 pm

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD wrote:given half a chance walt i would create a party and attempt to be elected through telling the population bullshit like all the leaders of all the countries now do. people just dont notice because they are all crack using whores who have no sense of reality.

and yes i never said i wouldnt run the government without violence. anyone who stood against me would die so i would have no competition.
anyone who is stupid enough to protest my reign would also die.
hippies and the rest of the useless drug using population would also die.

so overall if i had to use fascism to get a communist utopia i would do it without regret.

WTF your the reincarnation of Hitler or something?

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:35 pm

You should all be "dealt with". You guys are the reason why communism can't be achieved and will never be.

Exception made of Mandalorian.

Slave_Master · Post by **Slave_Master** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:39 pm

s4ur0n27 wrote:You should all be "dealt with". You guys are the reason why communism can't be achieved and will never be.

Exception made of Mandalorian.

Thanks for showing me the folly of my ways. I'll make sure not to argue with the infinite wisdom of those who have read a biography or two of Stalin, and the Communist Manifesto. The average human has no greed or any "bad" attributes, the evil capitalists won't let you run your perfect utopia. My fucking apologies.

Hammer · Post by **Hammer** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 7:33 pm

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

I'm sure Lenin drank from the same soupbowl as the peasents in Siberia.

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 7:37 pm

s4ur0n27 wrote:You should all be "dealt with". You guys are the reason why communism can't be achieved and will never be.

Exception made of Mandalorian.

Ah, close minded communists who kill people who say they aren't going to be communists? Seems more extreme right than left or something. A party should be good enough that people don't have to be killed, through HELL OR HIGH WATER.

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD · Wed Oct 08, 2003 8:54 pm

i love you too Forty-six & Two, but you shouldnt have revealled my little reincarnation secret so soon.

SuperH · Post by **SuperH** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 10:47 pm

He shouldn't have?
You did, fascist wacko.

airsoft guy · Post by **airsoft guy** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 11:01 pm

Well then, if that's how you're going to be, I guess I', just going to have to kill you for not going along with capitalism.

What a fuckwit.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 11:08 pm

Actually, you are the one close-minded, and being pessimist. If we wanted communism we could have communism.

I just guess the human don't want equality even tho they say the opposite all the time.

Slave_Master · Post by **Slave_Master** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 11:17 pm

s4ur0n27 wrote:Actually, you are the one close-minded, and being pessimist. If we wanted communism we could have communism.

Right. So...

Communism ALWAYS equals open-mindedness

Capitalism ALWAYS equals closed-mindedness.

Even though you said a few posts back that you supported killing all non-communists.

I just guess the human don't want equality even tho they say the opposite all the time

More bullshit. So far, no communism has proven to set up equality of any kind. Except maybe to make everyone equally poor, aside from the folks at the top of the pyramid.

People don't want communism because it doesn't fucking work.

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD · Wed Oct 08, 2003 11:24 pm

people dont want communism because it might cut into their little habits of lookin at gay/kiddie porn