Your favorite games and Why?

Rev · Post by **Rev** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 3:34 am

if your cd rom is scratching your cd that means you need to clean it.

Stainless · Post by **Stainless** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 4:28 am

my old cd-rom managed to munch on my first copy of Fo2.

Now I'm up to my 4th copy of Fo2, and I'm getting sick of all these costers

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:01 am

Stainless wrote:Now I'm up to my 4th copy of Fo2, and I'm getting sick of all these costers

I don't understand all of these problems people are having with their CD-ROM drives. I use cheap drives all the time. I even used a CD drive for almost a year that didn't even open when you pressed the button -- you had to stick a paperclip in that little hole -- and I don't think I have ever had a CD scratched, munched or otherwise consumed by any of my CD drives.

Franz Schubert · Post by **Franz Schubert** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 6:10 am

These people are scratching their own damn cd's. Try opening up a computer some time, it will dispell your impression that the inside is powered by elves and magic and shit.

Menno · Post by **Menno** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 6:38 am

Franz_Schubert wrote:These people are scratching their own damn cd's. Try opening up a computer some time, it will dispell your impression that the inside is powered by elves and magic and shit.

Right.....lets disregard the fact that that I've been using music CD's for over 12 years; lets ignore the fact that I used and handled Laserdiscs for over 7 years (where one scratch could cause picture disruption); lets push aside the fact that I've used and handled DVD's for three years. Throughout all these formats I have not had one single scratched disc. So now with this laptop, half of my games end up with scratches on them, and you're saying it's due to my incompetence handling them? As if I simply forgot the previous 12 years of my life on handling discs?

I have examined my CD drive carefully, and yes, while under normal use there is no conceivable way for a CD to be scratched, I have noticed a way for the discs to be scratched when it excessively spins for long durations. A slight amount of pressure on the disc would cause the disc itself to push closer to the tray, and I can clearly see locations where scratches can occur if this were to happen. Getting back to what I was saying in my previous post, this doesn't occur for all my games; usually the ones that have a form of copy-protection on them (such as SecureRom). As I play these certain games, they have a tendency to spin loudly and rapidly (at times when its not even loading) for long durations, because it's checking to make sure the disc is in the drive. I'm guessing (and I'm not saying for certain) that the excessive duration of the disc spinning somehow causes the disc to possibly wobble very slightly scratching against the inner tray itself. Again, that's just a guess; but I do know for a fact that the scratches aren't caused by my mishandling of the discs.

The Gaijin · Post by **The Gaijin** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 7:44 am

And once again, Menno PAWNED TEH COMPETISHUN LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!11111oneoneonecake

Stainless · Post by **Stainless** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 7:48 am

*applauds*

What he said. I'm not so retarded that I throw my CDs around like frisbees, and when my CD got munched I actually heard the drive having a fair go at it.

My other copies were drink spillage related though.

Menno · Post by **Menno** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 8:06 am

The Gaijin wrote:And once again, Menno PAWNED TEH COMPETISHUN LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!11111oneoneonecake

Haha, no no no. I wasn't really trying to prove him completely wrong, because in a way he's absolutely right. In normal circumstances, CD's aren't supposed to be scratched by the player. The point I was trying to make was the fact that some copy-protection crap, like SecureRom, coupled with poorly manufactured CD players (such as the one I have) cause scratches because (I'm guessing) the CD player wasn't designed/tested for those copy-protection programs. The game keeps checking for the disc, and because the CD player isn't compatible with SecureRom, it causes extremely excessive disc spinning; factor that in with poor manufacturing of the CD players (since most laptop CD players cut corners) and it's a recipe for problems. There are alot of people on the Bioware forums who have similiar problems with SecureRom, causing havoc in their game or CD player itself. Many have signed a petition on their forums asking for the next patch to remove the SecureRom feature; but since it's a policy of the publisher and not the developer, they can't.

Haha, don't paint me as some guy who thinks he's a know it all, going around "owning" everyone! There's plenty of shit I have little knowledge of out there. [As is the case with my opinion of Morrowind in another thread].

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:03 am

I guess I've been lucky as well. No cd's "consumed" by the player, only those, ahem, accidental scratches and stains you get from leaving the bare disc on the table, spilling drink on it etc.

Franz Schubert · Post by **Franz Schubert** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 11:07 am

Drinks shouldn't usually cause a problem. Just run the disc under warm water, apply a liberal amount of soap, and rub in circular motions with your fingers. (Make sure it's dry before you put it back in the drive

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The Gaijin · Post by **The Gaijin** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 11:13 am

Menno wrote:Haha, don't paint me as some guy who thinks he's a know it all, going around "owning" everyone!

I wasn't doing that. Merely giving credit where credit was due. Seriously, I go around DAC these days hoping someone says something stupid so you can come back and be all "HERE IS THE TRUTH K THNX FOR BEING COMPLETELY WRONG". It's fucking great. And no, you don't come off as a know-it-all, merely well informed and *gasp* intelligent.

SuperH · Post by **SuperH** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 1:19 pm

Menno, I think he likes you. :-o
Lewl.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:53 pm

I remember when Diablo 2 came out, I had a cheap computer (tho the CD drive was an Aopen one) and the CD used to spin a lot and loudly, and some day, while I was playing my uber leet lvl 40 necromancer, I heard a big BANG shclinglingling and my comp froze and shut down. God the CD exploded in my drive, I opened up my case and took out the CD drive, and it was full of small pieces. So I sent Diablo2 back to Blizzard and my drive back to aopen and got new ones for both!

Tho since then I'm cursed with the D drive, I had two other computers after this one, both had a fucked up CD drive. Now I fixed it : I got a CD-RW in my E drive, and I always use this one instead lol

SuperH · Post by **SuperH** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 6:52 pm

How fast was the cd drive you had? I know that some cd drives used to (or maybe still?) be made poorly enough that they would cause the cd to melt at high speeds. Maybe you're got flash fried and it caused the metal part of the cd to make the rest pop like it was in a microwave

badassed.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:54 am

I remember reading somewhere for a Cd-rom drive review in a magazine that it was the fastest one (at that time on the market). It burned at about 2x the speed of most normal burners (I think 48x, I forgot, it's been awhile since I read). Anyways, the article said that when a CD goes at such a high speed that if theres any sort of cracks ((even micro-cracks)) in the cd that it would explode in the drive. Basically a shrapnel grenade for your computer. Ofcourse you had to push a special button located in the CD-Tray to activate it, but I found the warning interesting none the less.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 5:18 pm

Sure.
I'd like to be warned before it happens tho.

Remember me when I tried to flash my motherboard bios :
I got an error while flashing it, and my comp wouldn't restart, so I went looking on the internet and I finally found out that a specific and rare version of the motherboard I had had a RIGHT-PROTECTED cmos chip, and that attempting to flash it would result in mobo death. Guess what, the chip burnt.