Fear and Loathing in Iraq

[EFFEXOR]

Ya know KMFDM has some crazy anti-culture anti politics stuff that kinda have to do with the current situation especially with the release of their newest album WWIII. However, Kerry was on the platform for reinstituting the draft and I sure a f*** hope they don't bring it back because alot of people I know would be as I said before screwed. And if they did bring it back there would be all sorts of hell for the gov'mint to pay. Seeing is how alot of the veterans of the vietnam war I know will protest because they don't want others to go through the hell they had to during that time. They hated it and would like to see the draft thrown out.

WWWIII be all that you can be,
Janus

WWIII is way too obvious, i'd say it's got to be one of the dumbest and least intelligent KMFDM albums to date... all of them are somewhat obvious but this one does one better. it's just pure anger and aggression that loses itself and comes out as mostly bad guitar and over produced noise. the intensity of the rage that sascha and the gang must have been feeling during this recording is so high that the technological advancements that KMFDM has made in the last 20 years have been forgotten. it's the nature of humanity though to become stupid when angry so i can't say i'm suprised.

i don't think it's a bad album, i also don't think it great... it's typical KMFDM; simple solution to simple problems (george w.)

listen to ministry's new album "Houses of the Mole (with special french "e") or skinny puppy's new "Greater wrong of the right" or even Front Line Assembly's "Civilzation" all musically and conceptually better albums than KMFDM's and all pretty much tackling the problem that is george w. bush.

that being said i'm seeing Ministry and Thrill Kill Kult on october 13th and probably seeing SP and KMFDM when they book some fucking canadian dates this fall.

Wow! EFFEXOR chill dude. WWIII is not an album for older KMFDM fans but it is definitely a gateway album for newer listeners. I have been listening to KMFDM since I was 10 and the first album I got of theirs was Nihil. They have always been counter culture. The guitaring in WWIII was superb and it was Steve Whites best to date. The songs that I could live without are Revenge, Moron and From Here ON OUT. Other than that it was a good album that was a hell of alot better than Attack. My cousin got to meet with Sascha K. before the Tulsa show anyways he said that he wanted the album to be the way it was. Also he didn't have Skold or Schulz to really go through on alot of the creative process. Not that they were bad but he got to things his way finally I guess.

I have heard and bought Ministry's-Houses of the Mole' , Skinny Puppy's-greater wrong of right. They are good album but they aren't in the same boat besides the fact they are industrial and they happen to not like Bush.
Other than that your flame made perfect sense.

I didn't realize I was flaming you? Sascha is pretty fly for a white guy though...

[Retlaw83]

Speaking of which, it was a fake video tape.

One of the videotapes was fake. It was made to get publicity for some guy running for local office on the west coast.

Of course, he got the idea to make it from the half-dozen or so real ones.

[Retlaw83]

Quoted an entire conversation

Just post the points you're replying to, so you don't repost half the damn thread.

[Kashluk]

Oh, so there were several videos? I've really lost most of my interest towards the Iraq war by now, so I haven't really kept up with all the latest *horrable torture skandalz and Friday the 13th copy cat videos*.

[Retlaw83]

Oh, so there were several videos? I've really lost most of my interest towards the Iraq war by now, so I haven't really kept up with all the latest *horrable torture skandalz and Friday the 13th copy cat videos*.

There are videos of insurgents in Iraq killing foreign nationals that work with contractors there. Interestingly enough, many of the videos show beheadings by combat knife... which is a Chechen custom. Arabs traditionally behead people using swords.

[Doc Hill]

This is not in reply to anything, if I'd been here when this started up, I could reply to thing, but I'm on my third cup of coffee and still not awake yet, so I'll just post my thoughts, starting with the most obvious....Bush is a douch bag. I won't touch on any of the point that make me loathe the man save two. He lied, and he pissed off every other country except Britain.Saddam was an evil man, and should not have been in power, but we went in under false pretenses. He refused to wait for a true coalition, and right now, the burden of policing, rebuilding, and doing everything else in Iraq, is falling on the American taxpayer alone. Things are even getting worse in Iraq...why? Because they see it as American imperialism, and I can't blame them. There's no Russian troops. There's no Germans....for the love of Peter Frampton, we don't even have and Frenchman over there. We need to pull out, and go back in with a tru internationl coalition.I have friends in Iraq right. Marines actually, they were brothers. Both have been wounded, and are still fighting...With things getting progressively worse, I worry about them. I won't plea for people to Vote Kerry, I will plea that you vote your conscience, and that at the very least, you get out and vote. Unless your not in America....uh...then you can call an American and tell him to vote.

[Retlaw83]

I won't plea for people to Vote Kerry, I will plea that you vote your conscience, and that at the very least, you get out and vote. Unless your not in America....uh...then you can call an American and tell him to vote.

That's a very good sentiment. People should always do what they think is right, even if it turns out to be wrong.

[Radoteur]

blah blah blah

menno should do this too
from wherever he his. Where is he anyways?

[MurPHy]

Menno would give a solid ass-whooping to every liberal here if here was around. I miss him.