point/angle of view

Lord_Nighthawk · Post by **Lord_Nighthawk** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:55 pm

hi there, itÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´s me (again :-/ )

got a small problem here i coundnÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t find any solution for ... also google etc. gave me no help.

i started rendering some vehicles for new ingame objects, but the problem is that i tried the last to days finding the correct angle every object is shown ingame.

so does someone know the cocrrect angle i have to use so my vehicles are aligned correctly?

greetings

requiem_for_a_starfury · Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:48 pm

I know that 2 dimensional items like posters are +/- 28 degrees on the vertical. Other than that you can try this thread http://www.duckandcover.cx/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2327.

Lord_Nighthawk · Post by **Lord_Nighthawk** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:20 pm

ahhhh, i found it out.....my mistake was that i always kept perspective correction turned on...now it looks good with 27Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â°

SomePictures

last picture is the implented model, shadows will be added when i find out how intense the transparent shadows have to be in photoshop

Post by **Retlaw83** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:48 pm

Spectacular job on those tiles. Aside from the A-10, I had some difficulty differentiating your work from the original art.

Lord_Nighthawk · Post by **Lord_Nighthawk** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:00 pm

the a10 was just a test-shot while i was figuring out how to implend new big map tiles. itÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´s already removed

Fez · Post by **Fez** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:30 pm

Good work on those tiles. You've blended them in well.

requiem_for_a_starfury · Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:36 pm

A10 looks really good, are you doing any civilian planes?

One tip when placing big tiles like that with a bounding box larger than the image, snap it to the grid and then select the floor tiles underneath it and flag them 'do not allow shadow' that'll get rid of the great big square shadow.

BTW it's funny to see an editor screen which is fairly virgin, if I add any more custom tile folders to mine I'll be scrolling up and down to find anything.

Lord_Nighthawk · Post by **Lord_Nighthawk** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:45 pm

thx for the shadow tip, iÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´ll keep it for further things coming up. i get really scared when i see what i have to script, cause thatÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´s the only thing i donÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t get right through- my mission 1 is just a changed original script, it works, but i donÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t really understand why

on the other side the mapping and implenting of new things like new weapons etc works fine, 6 new weapons right now and map 2 half way ready. i donÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t want to make very much new tiles cause the original ones fit that way good and have still a big potential to create new things that have not been seen in fallout games yet.

i hope i will get my campaign somehow ready, looking like some kind of addon and not just something like things have been put together.

so i hope if i have questions you will have still good ideas for me

one more screenshot is up - the a10 was the idea for a special thing, but i require a good 3d model in 3ds/milkshape format to get it in with a good quality (the model that was up was just a half-way fitting picture i found online and resampled a bit)

so long
hawk

fallout ranger · Post by **fallout ranger** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:32 am

i'm likin' the tank man. you need to do some more.

btw, did you do that wa 3000?

Lord_Nighthawk · Post by **Lord_Nighthawk** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:54 am

the wa2000 is frome somebody i donÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t know - i found it in my old cs - weapon - replacement folder and rendered it. the other weapons are mine (i made them for cs too - years ago

)

the tank is something iÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´m still not sure if i can use it cause of copyright things- itÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´s from rtcw. but it would not be that way hard to make a new one myself i think.

requiem_for_a_starfury · Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:19 pm

If you hadn't of said that I'd of never of recognised the tank.

Xbow has made some tank sprites, I'm just waiting for him to send them to me so I can convert them into tiles and add them to my maps.

gomimin · Post by **gomimin** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:22 pm

@ Lord Nighthawk

gute Arbeit!!!

Lord_Nighthawk · Post by **Lord_Nighthawk** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:08 am

danke

i ran a little bit out of mapping ideas at the moment, so i just wanted to show a try to put palms into a map... i hate those brain-controlled-creation-lags ...

Here

nothing special and just a tryout. i still cant get the damned scripting working right and i canÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t find any good tuts for it.

greets

requiem_for_a_starfury · Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:31 am

What are you trying to script?

Dexter · Post by **Dexter** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:45 am

Very slight nitpick, but I notice you have palms and cacti in the same map. I'm pretty sure that any climate that would host palms wouldn't host cacti, and vice versa. I'll check Wikipedia or something to verify, but I'm pretty sure about it.

Like I said, not a major problem, but if you're going for realism you might want to check on that.

Post by **Retlaw83** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:38 am

Palm trees and cacti can exist side-by-side in low humidity in warm areas; my yard in South Africa had both. It would probably never occur in nature, though.

requiem_for_a_starfury · Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:07 am

But this is not a natural world with high radiation levels and mutated FEV running rampant anything is possible.

Lord_Nighthawk · Post by **Lord_Nighthawk** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:54 pm

the palms are for a later map that shall play on some kind of island... but that will all come later.

the first part of the campaign is about 3 maps, where you have to recover stolen equipment and get information about the story. after that you will return to your basecamp. iÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´m not sure how to scipt when the different races occur (ghouls, mutants etc. ), cause there will be (or is not planned yet) any kind of rescue mission. also i would like to know if there is any chance to get in something like the trunk in fallout 2 (a box i can put all my stuff in i donÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t want to trade) and a trader who sells better weapons (so you donÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t always have to find everything)

thats not all i want to implent, but the base i would need to continue i think.

greets

fallout ranger · Post by **fallout ranger** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:00 pm

good lookin' palms dude.

any chance you could post them weapon sprites?

requiem_for_a_starfury · Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:44 pm

Lord_Nighthawk wrote:iÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´m not sure how to scipt when the different races occur (ghouls, mutants etc. ), cause there will be (or is not planned yet) any kind of rescue mission.

How do you mean, in mission or in random encounters? In mission you just add them to the map set to whichever player index. If you want them to appear at different times on the same map, perhaps for revisits then you need to start them off as deactivated. The tutorial on JJ's pages for endocore's speech system would show you how to do the triggers for that.

Lord_Nighthawk wrote:also i would like to know if there is any chance to get in something like the trunk in fallout 2 (a box i can put all my stuff in i donÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t want to trade) and a trader who sells better weapons (so you donÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t always have to find everything)

If you're not going to have any drivable vehicles then you'd need to make a sprite for your storage container to match up with the rest of the vehicle. For example your tank tile, you'd need to cut the image in half and make one half a tile and the other a sprite, or just make the whole thing a sprite and connect it to a container entity. You can just add trader actors to a map with certain inventories as in the main game, or you can use the quarter master system. Personally I'm using the trader set up for my QM's and the quarter master system for my traders.