Duck and Cover

Posted: **Sat Jun 15, 2002 10:03 am**

Ok so we figure out how to put all the zip files in the folder we're using and all that..... (we're following the Editor FAQ on Duck and Cover now) They're talking about putting down tiles by load tile set button (.tse) but I don't see anything in all the tile folders that can be loaded. I even searched the folders for those types of files and didn't get any matches. I see in the example pic they got up on there that the tiles show up in the left menu thing, doesn't happen for me. What am I missing here? Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Posted: **Sat Jun 15, 2002 10:07 am**

No, you need to make the tilesets and save them... Then fix them because the save (or load...) feature is bugged, and finally you can load them.

Posted: **Sat Jun 15, 2002 10:33 am**

So to make em, do we change the .til files to .tse files? Is that what you mean by fixing them?

Posted: **Sat Jun 15, 2002 10:49 am**

Um, no. Go in the editor, select the tile tab, you'll see a "save tilset" and "load tileset" button.

Shift-click a bunch of tiles (you'll see the number of tiles increase), click "Save tileset". Open the .tse file you saved, and add quotes to every line except the first one

Example wrote:SavedTileSetV1.0
"tiles/Generic tiles/Generic floors/Sand/Waste_Floor_Gravel_SandCentre_F_11_NE.til"
"tiles/Generic tiles/Generic floors/Sand/Waste_Floor_Gravel_SandCentre_F_11_NW.til"
"tiles/Generic tiles/Generic floors/Sand/Waste_Floor_Gravel_SandCentre_F_11_SE.til"
"tiles/Generic tiles/Generic floors/Sand/Waste_Floor_Gravel_SandCentre_F_11_SW.til"
"tiles/Generic tiles/Generic floors/Sand/Waste_Floor_Gravel_SandCentre_F_13_NE.til"
"tiles/Generic tiles/Generic floors/Sand/Waste_Floor_Gravel_SandCentre_F_13_NW.til"
"tiles/Generic tiles/Generic floors/Sand/Waste_Floor_Gravel_SandCentre_F_13_SE.til"
"tiles/Generic tiles/Generic floors/Sand/Waste_Floor_Gravel_SandCentre_F_13_SW.til"
"tiles/Generic tiles/Generic floors/Sand/Waste_Floor_Gravel_SandCentre_F_3_NE.til"
"tiles/Generic tiles/Generic floors/Sand/Waste_Floor_Gravel_SandCentre_F_3_NW.til"
"tiles/Generic tiles/Generic floors/Sand/Waste_Floor_Gravel_SandCentre_F_3_SE.til"
"tiles/Generic tiles/Generic floors/Sand/Waste_Floor_Gravel_SandCentre_F_3_SW.til"

Save it, and then finally you can load them within the editor (using the load tileset button fo course).

Posted: **Sat Jun 15, 2002 11:38 am**

It doesn't show me any .til files when I try to see em in the editor, it shows the folders with nothing in em, should I save the tiles using windows explorer to do that?

Maybe I unzipped the files into to the wrong dir.... it was FalloutTactics/Test. Is there a different place you're supposed to put them?

Posted: **Sat Jun 15, 2002 12:16 pm**

the tiles are in the core directory... Of course you uncompressed the BOS file I take it.

Posted: **Sat Jun 15, 2002 12:34 pm**

Yeah. They still don't seem to show up.

Posted: **Sat Jun 15, 2002 1:26 pm**

Make sure you don't have "None" checked/ticked/marked/peed on/whatever

In the left-hand window (where the tiles should show up), you'll see a row looking something like this:

All N S W E None

This controls which tiles are displayed. Just click "All" and you should see 'em.

If not, then I'm stumped. Double-check to make sure you've extracted the tiles_0.bos file correctly, I guess...

Posted: **Sat Jun 15, 2002 1:52 pm**

The tiles don't who up, or the tilesets?

Posted: **Sat Jun 15, 2002 11:53 pm**

The tiles dont, and neither do the tilesets coz I guess I can't make/save any. I unzipped the BOS files into the folder I made that I wanted to use to make stuff. I dunno, somethins f-ed up.

Posted: **Sun Jun 16, 2002 2:29 am**

Chaos Horror wrote:I unzipped the BOS files into the folder I made that I wanted to use to make stuff.

Yes, you unpacked the tiles to the wrong directory, most likely. Your directory should look like this:

C:\Program Files\14 Degrees East\Fallout Tactics\core\tiles

The "tiles" folder should contain the following folders:

BOS
Generic Tiles
Industrial
Junk City
Mission Specific
Mountains
New Tiles
PostWar Town
RAIDERS
Robotic
Ruined City
Test
Vault
Village
Wasteland

If there is an extra leve between those folders and the address that I listed, you unpacked your tiles incorrectly. If this is the case, the only option is to delete all of those subdirectories containing the tile files, and re-unzip them.

No, you can't simply modify some other file to get the tiles to display, because if you do that any maps you make will be unplayable by anyone else.

Also, make sure that you have the files "Tiles.txt" and that it is located at C:\Program Files\14 Degrees East\Fallout Tactics\core\tiles .

OTB

Posted: **Sun Jun 16, 2002 2:37 am**

Well, given you'd know what you were doing, you could simply move the tile directory back into the core directory, but judging by the fact he seems not to know where he extractted the tiles, I think it's safer to re-unextract them

Posted: **Sun Jun 16, 2002 2:45 am**

Any operation involving almost 16,000 files is going to be messy, no matter what you're doing.

OTB

Posted: **Sun Jun 16, 2002 9:04 am**

Thanks guys, it works now. The problem I had was when I unzipped the files it was automatically put into a folder called tile_0 or something, well, I just got rid of that moving the subfolders out into the core directory. Thanks for the help.