NMA continues to beat the dead horse

ApTyp · Post by **ApTyp** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:18 pm

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Three more design docs for Van Buren (Black Isle's Fallout 3 that
died along with the company) were released today. Absolute majority of
the staff here at DAC doesn't give a hoot about Van Buren on the
account of it being dead and all, but I know some of our visitors are
not so indifferent.
If you're one of them, go to <a href="http://www.nma-fallout.com">NMA frontpage</a> for all your dead horse needs. Spotted @ <a href="http://www.nma-fallout.com">No Mutants Allowed</a>

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:38 pm

cut the crap with NMA and VBuren, it's not fun anymore. I think we should have a brief news item, which you made just fine, but stuff like "beat the dead horse" and " Absolute majority of the staff here at DAC doesn't give a hoot" are redundant and overall less fun than Van Buren docs.

ApTyp · Post by **ApTyp** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:40 pm

I'd rather not touch the crap, let alone cut it. So my answer would be "no way jose"

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:45 pm

since you put it this way.. At least our "irony" could be fresher.. oh well.

Waiting for *NMA staff token post*

POOPERSCOOPER · Post by **POOPERSCOOPER** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:51 pm

http://www.bittorrent.com/

Use it NMA and stop trying to keep the corpse alive.

Pope Viper · Post by **Pope Viper** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:39 pm

*** NMA Staff Token Anger Filled Post ***

Thank you for your time.

ApTyp · Post by **ApTyp** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:21 pm

Dude. It is my understanding that for as long as I provide quality news to DAC, I am tolerated to speak my mind. When the value of the former pales in comparison to the later, I am to be terminated. Until that happens, suck it up, eh?

I'm mellow like a motherfucker.

Kahgan · Post by **Kahgan** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:26 pm

so, VB is now a dead horse?
what's next, a dead troll? dead zombie? undead zombie?

SNorth · Post by **SNorth** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:48 pm

I found portions of those design docs of use. The global city map idea was very interesting to me.

Matrix · Post by **Matrix** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:06 am

listen to me aptyp life is to short for grudges i think you should make friends with your girlfriend what if shes lying stone dead cold in a morgue and the last words between you two was an anagram huh when your a soldier like me you realize these things and that every second cunts

Mr. Teatime · Post by **Mr. Teatime** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:09 am

Dead dead dead etc. I don't care enough to make an insulting post really, and couldn't be bother posting this news myself. long live nma, puuk and van buren, hail to the king baby, etc.

Post by **DarkUnderlord** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:17 am

... and so the rift widens.

Pope Viper · Post by **Pope Viper** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:27 am

I don't care, I love you guys.

MR Snake · Post by **MR Snake** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:57 am

Matrix wrote:listen to me aptyp life is to short for grudges i think you should make friends with your girlfriend what if shes lying stone dead cold in a morgue and the last words between you two was an anagram huh when your a soldier like me you realize these things and that every second cunts

your back!!

Ausir · Post by **Ausir** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:58 am

SNorth wrote:I found portions of those design docs of use. The global city map idea was very interesting to me.

Parts of the design docs are interesting, but it's not really the point. I doubt there would be so much negativity from DAC if NMA released all the design docs at once.

Post by **DarkUnderlord** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:18 am

Well, I'm pretty sure there would still be complaints. It'd just be all over quicker. It boils down to a matter of "What's the point?". Yes it's "interesting" but how long is it going to be kept up for (releasing it all at once in that regard would be better - IE: Why is this getting dragged out?)?

I mean, imagine if I suddenly posted a news item with development info from Fallout: Tactics about an area which never made it into the game. It's interesting, people would talk about and hey, why not if you just got the info? The thing is, if I dropped a hint "there's more where that came from!" and then next week I had another one. And then a month later there was more. Then there was a handful of "concept screenshots"...

It's all interesting but how do you say "We've got no actual news to post so we'll just drag this crap out for the next year" in Belgian?

Beating the dead horse is appropriate. It's dead. Two years later it's still really fucking dead. We don't need reminders every week. It just gets more and more rotten and decomposed as it goes on. All we've got left are skeletons. An outline of what once could have been. It shouldn't be much longer before it's fossilised.

[/rant I didn't real want to post but did anyway because hey, what can you do?]

Pope Viper · Post by **Pope Viper** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:49 pm

Really, I don't know what the big deal is. NMA has access to some of the design docs, they get posted as they are delivered to us.

Yes, the game is dead, no doubt about it. So what? If it's interesting to our visitors, what's the harm in posting it?

I mean come on, it's no different from these recent DAC breaking news scoops:

http://www.duckandcover.cx/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12712

http://www.duckandcover.cx/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12724

http://www.duckandcover.cx/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12559

Since this thing has been beaten to death (like a "dead horse"), I won't waste your time posting about it again, as it just causes more teenage-like angst among the sites.

You guys obviously have your opinions about it, and will continue to make the comments whenever future docs get released.

Have fun

SNorth · Post by **SNorth** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:37 pm

I guess part of my interest has been simply in comparing MR's storyline and quests to another Fallout game's to gauge how good our ideas have been. It has been instructive to see how in-depth the professionals go with their work. My interest would be the same for a F1 or F2 design doc.

POOPERSCOOPER · Post by **POOPERSCOOPER** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:21 pm

briosfreak has everything on his computer, get your head up from his lap and look him in his face.

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:32 pm

Pope Viper wrote:NMA has access to some of the design docs, they get posted as they are delivered to us.

It just seems you have no other newsposts than the weekly VB design doc and some random mod projects no one really cares about. While Fallout 3 isn't a hot topic yet, I'd rather read some general interesting tidbits about nuclear/apocalyptic stuff or even robots.