The Reality Of The Situation

ExtremeDrinker · Post by **ExtremeDrinker** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:53 pm

A few years ago, I would have thrown down a few hundred for a new video card and some RAM, but things have changed. The fans of Fallout are growing up and have real-life responsibilities. Bethesda knows this.

That's why Fallout 3 is not going to pay homage to the originals in anything other than name. They're going to revamp everything, force button-mashing and twitch dynamics, and cater to their target audience: kids with consoles.

Hell, the closest to an RPG most people in the last 5 or 6 years has gotten has been Morrowind, Oblivion, or one of the new Final Fantasy games. Fallout's time is over and Bethesda is going to do with it what the new RPG players want. So we're going to get Oblivion with Guns. No question about it (if there ever was).

This game is not being created for the PC (to port to console later). It's being created for both. This spells disaster. It may look pretty, but as the old saying goes. "You can't polish a turd." The underlying game will have to suck. It is going to be dumbed down and twitchy for the console group, so actual Fallout fans will hate it. It's going to have too many options, vast open spaces, and "too much talking" so the console group won't like it.

It will fail.

The way I see it, if I want to play Fallout 3, I have three choices.

1. Ignore my family and save money on top of my tax return to buy a computer because I've got nothing available that can play anything newer than 5 years old. With the stats of the game unknown, it's seeming more and more likely if I want to actually play it, I'd have to save about $1500 to get said computer.

2. Spend my tax return on a refurbished XBOX360 and a car payment.

3. Go back in time and destroy Bethesda. Cross fingers and hope Interplay follows directly follows FOT with FO3 rather than...FOBOS.

This is not a Fallout the fans will want, play, or buy.

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jetbaby · Post by **jetbaby** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:14 pm

You should've made this post like three years ago, dude. Fallout 3 has been on Suck Street for a long time. Personally I'd mix options two and three.

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:27 pm

I don't care, as long as there's soil erosion.

DaC-Sniper · Post by **DaC-Sniper** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:44 pm

ExtremeRyno wrote:I have three choices.

Take the pink pill.

But seriously, a game needs to make me want to buy a computer, by offering something like a great story with many freedom choices and not by showing the greatest particle effects in history. I rather think GTA 4 will be the game, which will force me to buy a new computer and not Fallout 3. (28th March GTA 4 Trailer

i cant wait) But weÃ‚Â´ll see what those bethcows will create, maybe iÃ‚Â´ll play Fallout 3 only out of pure irony.

Kukident · Post by **Kukident** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:29 pm

"Oblivion with guns" for the DAC expression of the year!

and all those posts are about the same:

FO3 will suck

and probably you are even right...

but why talk about it then? we ve already heard often enough :<

TNP · Post by **TNP** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:32 pm

This will be the thread that ruins Bethesda, oh god yes. On a side note:

See his ball go flying out?

Kukident · Post by **Kukident** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:24 pm

TNP wrote:This will be the thread that ruins Bethesda, oh god yes. On a side note:

See his ball go flying out?

funny

ExtremeDrinker · Post by **ExtremeDrinker** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:32 pm

I'm tired and flu-ish.

astro · Post by **astro** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:58 pm

Consoles are made for instant action, grab the controller have lots of fun, turn power off and forget untill next time. So the Arcade games proved to be the best genre for the Consoles very entertaining and easy to get started. Among them various fightings, racing games, and such as Mario, Sonic, and some simulation games (boxing, soccer, etc).

The consoles are extremely bad for 3D first person shooters, because the controlls do not allow to move and aim at the same time as effectively as those of PC. Consoles can't handle strategy games for the very same reason. And finally consoles are not supposed to support RPG, simply because they are much slower paced to satisfy an everage console fan.

The only RPG series that gained popularity are those Japaneese with fancy graphics, literally no dialogues and plenty of shining flashes.

Console meant for fun not serious and thoughtfull gaming. So let it be. Let the younger people take what they like. But there could be no dumbing down the original PC series to the level of console misery.

I can only hope that FO 3 doesn't come on Nintendo Wii, where you controll game with the radio transmitter swinging.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:24 am

astro wrote:The only RPG series that gained popularity are those Japaneese with fancy graphics, literally no dialogues and plenty of shining flashes.

What JRPGs have you been playing? Every JRPG I've ever played has dialogue cutscenes that last a kijillion minutes. The problem is they're just that, dialogue cutscenes. Spazmo put it best when he said that RPG's are more like "Storybooks" then actual roleplaying games in that things are generally very linear. It's not always bad and console games can have thought provoking stories and such (not many though), they're just light in the gameplay department that we'd all like.

Post by **Dogmeatlives** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:48 am

My bro has a 360 so I don't have to rely on my crappy computer. And you better believe I'm not buying Fallout 3 unless it is nothing like what we know it will be like. I will probably rent it, although I think I owe Blockbuster my first born. I don't play video games anymore anyway. I pray to Zeus that the game bombs.

We can help it bomb by getting on every Fallout 3 forum and bashing the game before the kiddies get their hands on it.

My idea of Hell would be playing Japanese RPGs all day.Only taking breaks to eat glass.

PsychoSniper · Post by **PsychoSniper** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:58 am

Most jRPGs are gay.

Chrono Trigger and Zelda are about the only good jRPGs (ok, Zelda isnt officaly an RPG, but its close enough to jRPG with the way its setup. Of course, I have refused to buy the new 3D ones simply because I dont want to play a zelda FPS fragfest)

ApTyp · Post by **ApTyp** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:05 am

Is Ryno Extreme again?

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:11 am

Dogmeatlives wrote:We can help it bomb by getting on every Fallout 3 forum and bashing the game before the kiddies get their hands on it.

There are other Fallout forums, much less Fallout Forums dedicated 3?

ApTyp · Post by **ApTyp** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:19 am

He is proposing the Internet War.

jetbaby · Post by **jetbaby** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:43 pm

Ryno needs to bring back the Drinker.

PsychoSniper · Post by **PsychoSniper** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:36 pm

I propose someone living in the MD area find hines and get in a bar fight with him and beat the shit out of him right before E3.

Todd too.

Reporters ask what happend, they could say that the fans made themselves heard.

More likley, they'll just say they beat eachther to a bloody pulp so they could scan the bruises into the game for realistic brising.

Post by **Dogmeatlives** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:52 pm

I'm not located in MD but I do have Spring Break coming up. I smell a roadtrip movie. Along the way I'll meet new and interesting people and broaden my horizons. By the time I make it to MD (my car has broken down several times of course) I will learn a valuable lesson about friendship and Pete will inform me that I didn't have to go searching for happiness, I had it all along and never eveen knew it. I will them proceed with the beating.

DaC-Sniper · Post by **DaC-Sniper** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:05 pm

Dogmeatlives wrote:(my car has broken down several times of course)

you need an german car!

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:10 pm

LOL, i'm so tuff fallout fan I'll beat pete and todd when i sees them.

Niggas please.

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