Hard hitting, intelligent reporting
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<p>I'm gonna lift this straight from <strong>Vault Dweller</strong>'s <a href="http://www.rpgcodex.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=19011" target="_self">newspost on RPG Codex</a>, because he pretty much says it all.</p><p> </p><blockquote><p><span class="postbody"><em><a href="http://www.1up.com/">1UP</a> has posted <a href="http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3160085">an article</a>
dedicated to the FO3 trailer and featuring the reaction of Games for
Windows' (formerly known as Computer Gaming World magazine) staff:
</em>
<blockquote><em><strong>Sean Molloy</strong>: Smart start -- it certainly gave me
faith that they're sticking with the original games' tone. You get olde
radiola tunes, a quick glimpse at Pip (the original Fallout boy!) in
those propaganda posters on the bus. <strong>So yup, this is Fallout.</strong> I'm also now completely convinced <strong>it's gonna be some first-person Oblivion-style thing</strong>. ...</em></blockquote><em>Fallout = some FP Oblivion thing? Makes sense.
</em>
<blockquote><em>When the camera pulls out of the bus, and you see that
ruined cityscape--I want to explore that s*** in first-person. Imagine
that moment in Oblivion where you leave the first dungeon, only you see
apocalypse instead of green acres. I don't think Bethesda could pass up
that opportunity.</em></blockquote><em>My sentiments exactly.
</em>
<blockquote><em><strong>Shawn Elliott</strong>: Good God, this looks good. </em></blockquote><em>It's a fucking intro trailer, Shawn. You might want to save this excitement for a review. We already know how it would start.
</em>
<blockquote><em>Voice what you will about Bethesda not having the knack for
ink-black humor it needs to hammer out a true-to-the-series sequel, but
think it through first. In my mind, Oblivion more than proved the
developer's ability there...</em></blockquote><em>Yep, it was a real eye opener, Shawn.
</em>
<blockquote><em>In fact, if Bethesda decides to take a radically different direction with Fallout 3, I'd rather that than a dull remake.</em></blockquote><em>How very black-n-white.
</em>
<blockquote><em><strong>Jeff Green</strong>: Yeah, this looks hot. I'm palpitating
here. Okay, so it's just the trailer, and that has no bearings on
whether they'll actually make a good game or not. But they nailed the
tone here, dead on. Even the choice of that Ink Spots song ("set the
world on fire"--get it??) was right on, especially considering that
they could have gone with, um, Fall Out Boy, just to pick the worst
possible alternative. </em></blockquote><em>You know things are going great when the best argument is "it could have been soooo much worse".
</em>
<blockquote><em>And put me on the list with you two wanting a radically different direction--like first-person perspective. </em></blockquote>
<em>
Is radically the new epic?
</em>
<blockquote><em>I loved the first two Fallouts to death, but <strong>now is not the time for another isometric turn-based RPG.</strong></em></blockquote><em>I'd really love to hear the explanation for this bullshit. Anyone feel like emailing Jeff?
</em>
<blockquote><em><strong>Not with the amazing possibilities that Bethesda could
bring to this series after knocking it out of the park with Oblivion. I
can't wait.</strong></em></blockquote><em>*sigh*
</em>
<blockquote><em><strong>Darren Gladstone</strong>: Let me slap on the devil's
advocate hat for one second since nobody else here will. It's the
blessing and the curse of being a gaming curmudgeon. I'm not gonna lie,
Shawn. Prior to seeing the trailer, I was a little concerned about one
thing: Bethesda being able to hit the depths of black humor Interplay
previously did.</em></blockquote><em>Right. 'Cause everything else was tip-top.
Oblivion was a perfect RPG in every way, but the depth of its humor was
a bit disappointing. Such a shame, really.
</em>
<blockquote><em>...Minor bitching and general dickery aside, let me say
this: Wow. Inside of two minutes, Bethesda confirmed what I pretty much
knew all along-that the Fallout franchise is in very capable hands.</em></blockquote><em>Is it some kinda best blowjob competition event? It would help if we know what the rules are.
</em>
<blockquote><em>I'm right there with Sean Molloy. I need to see what happens the second I walk out of my vault and into Fallout 3's apocalypse. <strong>I can deal with no more turn-based gameplay</strong>...</em></blockquote><em>I too hope that someone will finally make a real-time game. I don't think I can handle yet another turn-based RPG.</em>
</span></p></blockquote><p>Just who <em>is</em> the Fallout boy, Pip? And did anyone else feel the fat, pasty games journo version of the jedi mind trick being attempted? *hand wave* <em><strong>N</strong></em><span class="postbody"><em><strong>ow is not the time for another isometric turn-based RPG.</strong></em></span> *hand wave* <em><strong>Pass me the pizza with extra cheese. </strong></em>*hand wave* <em><strong>You find me very sexually attractive and not at all overweight. </strong></em>
</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Personally, I hope that these guys are neutralised ASAP.
</p><p> </p><h2>NO I DONT MEAN LITERALLY PSYCHOSNIPER. </h2><p>Spotted @ <a href="http://www.rpgcodex.com">RPG Codex</a></p>
<p>I'm gonna lift this straight from <strong>Vault Dweller</strong>'s <a href="http://www.rpgcodex.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=19011" target="_self">newspost on RPG Codex</a>, because he pretty much says it all.</p><p> </p><blockquote><p><span class="postbody"><em><a href="http://www.1up.com/">1UP</a> has posted <a href="http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3160085">an article</a>
dedicated to the FO3 trailer and featuring the reaction of Games for
Windows' (formerly known as Computer Gaming World magazine) staff:
</em>
<blockquote><em><strong>Sean Molloy</strong>: Smart start -- it certainly gave me
faith that they're sticking with the original games' tone. You get olde
radiola tunes, a quick glimpse at Pip (the original Fallout boy!) in
those propaganda posters on the bus. <strong>So yup, this is Fallout.</strong> I'm also now completely convinced <strong>it's gonna be some first-person Oblivion-style thing</strong>. ...</em></blockquote><em>Fallout = some FP Oblivion thing? Makes sense.
</em>
<blockquote><em>When the camera pulls out of the bus, and you see that
ruined cityscape--I want to explore that s*** in first-person. Imagine
that moment in Oblivion where you leave the first dungeon, only you see
apocalypse instead of green acres. I don't think Bethesda could pass up
that opportunity.</em></blockquote><em>My sentiments exactly.
</em>
<blockquote><em><strong>Shawn Elliott</strong>: Good God, this looks good. </em></blockquote><em>It's a fucking intro trailer, Shawn. You might want to save this excitement for a review. We already know how it would start.
</em>
<blockquote><em>Voice what you will about Bethesda not having the knack for
ink-black humor it needs to hammer out a true-to-the-series sequel, but
think it through first. In my mind, Oblivion more than proved the
developer's ability there...</em></blockquote><em>Yep, it was a real eye opener, Shawn.
</em>
<blockquote><em>In fact, if Bethesda decides to take a radically different direction with Fallout 3, I'd rather that than a dull remake.</em></blockquote><em>How very black-n-white.
</em>
<blockquote><em><strong>Jeff Green</strong>: Yeah, this looks hot. I'm palpitating
here. Okay, so it's just the trailer, and that has no bearings on
whether they'll actually make a good game or not. But they nailed the
tone here, dead on. Even the choice of that Ink Spots song ("set the
world on fire"--get it??) was right on, especially considering that
they could have gone with, um, Fall Out Boy, just to pick the worst
possible alternative. </em></blockquote><em>You know things are going great when the best argument is "it could have been soooo much worse".
</em>
<blockquote><em>And put me on the list with you two wanting a radically different direction--like first-person perspective. </em></blockquote>
<em>
Is radically the new epic?
</em>
<blockquote><em>I loved the first two Fallouts to death, but <strong>now is not the time for another isometric turn-based RPG.</strong></em></blockquote><em>I'd really love to hear the explanation for this bullshit. Anyone feel like emailing Jeff?
</em>
<blockquote><em><strong>Not with the amazing possibilities that Bethesda could
bring to this series after knocking it out of the park with Oblivion. I
can't wait.</strong></em></blockquote><em>*sigh*
</em>
<blockquote><em><strong>Darren Gladstone</strong>: Let me slap on the devil's
advocate hat for one second since nobody else here will. It's the
blessing and the curse of being a gaming curmudgeon. I'm not gonna lie,
Shawn. Prior to seeing the trailer, I was a little concerned about one
thing: Bethesda being able to hit the depths of black humor Interplay
previously did.</em></blockquote><em>Right. 'Cause everything else was tip-top.
Oblivion was a perfect RPG in every way, but the depth of its humor was
a bit disappointing. Such a shame, really.
</em>
<blockquote><em>...Minor bitching and general dickery aside, let me say
this: Wow. Inside of two minutes, Bethesda confirmed what I pretty much
knew all along-that the Fallout franchise is in very capable hands.</em></blockquote><em>Is it some kinda best blowjob competition event? It would help if we know what the rules are.
</em>
<blockquote><em>I'm right there with Sean Molloy. I need to see what happens the second I walk out of my vault and into Fallout 3's apocalypse. <strong>I can deal with no more turn-based gameplay</strong>...</em></blockquote><em>I too hope that someone will finally make a real-time game. I don't think I can handle yet another turn-based RPG.</em>
</span></p></blockquote><p>Just who <em>is</em> the Fallout boy, Pip? And did anyone else feel the fat, pasty games journo version of the jedi mind trick being attempted? *hand wave* <em><strong>N</strong></em><span class="postbody"><em><strong>ow is not the time for another isometric turn-based RPG.</strong></em></span> *hand wave* <em><strong>Pass me the pizza with extra cheese. </strong></em>*hand wave* <em><strong>You find me very sexually attractive and not at all overweight. </strong></em>
</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Personally, I hope that these guys are neutralised ASAP.
</p><p> </p><h2>NO I DONT MEAN LITERALLY PSYCHOSNIPER. </h2><p>Spotted @ <a href="http://www.rpgcodex.com">RPG Codex</a></p>
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You are all right, guys. We should send Drednot with him, as he claims to be the capable one... maybe they succeed in shooting the 1up staff and each other. Win-win, indeed.
There are no 'knowns'. There are thing we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know. So when we do the best we can and we pull all this information together, and we then say well that's basically what we see as the situation, that is really only the known knowns and the known unknowns. And each year, we discover a few more of those unknown unknowns.
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I find it sad that games journalism has been reduced to a hype-filled, me-no-engage-brain, ooh-look-a-bandwagon-me-like-me-like!, research-is-for-steers-and-queers mess. Surely it wasn't always like this. I don't see how it can be taken seriously (and games journalism isn't, let's face it) when the quality of reporting is just this low. It's not even about having an opinion which is contrary to mine or someone elses', it's getting the basic facts wrong and unashamedly proclaiming you know your stuff, and large sites completely happy to publish this shit. If this was the general journalism equivalent, like the BBC or a big broadsheet newspaper, this sort of thing would get laughed off the editor's desk, or at least called to account.
At the moment, the so-called professional sites look like they're run by a bunch of finnicky teenage girls in heat, but without the cute ponytails.
Meh.
At the moment, the so-called professional sites look like they're run by a bunch of finnicky teenage girls in heat, but without the cute ponytails.
Meh.
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Bet ya 10 caps they'll be attending the Fallout 3 press party at Bethesdaville.
I honestly cannot understand how a first-person perspective would be a more radical move by Bethesda than a 3rd person/fixed isometric perspective, given their previous games?Mr. Teatime wrote:<blockquote><em>And put me on the list with you two wanting a radically different direction--like first-person perspective. </em></blockquote>
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have you ever had an original thought though? i'm guessing noPsychoSnipers wrote:On topic tho, glad to see this bullshit article exposed, I had the same thoughts when I read it.
suppose you're thinking about a plate of shrimp. suddenly somebody will say like 'plate' or 'shrimp' or 'plate of shrimp', out of the blue, no explanation.
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