Alternate Endings...

Fusion Cola · Post by **Fusion Cola** » Thu Jul 18, 2002 12:31 am

Does anyone know how many endings there are to the game, and if so, what are they?? I managed to get two of them, but a walkthrough I read mentions four...

ArchVile · Post by **ArchVile** » Thu Jul 18, 2002 1:09 am

I only know of 3

1st: Barneky joins with the Calculator, becomes a dictator, imprisons minorities

2nd: You join with Calculator and everything is good (in my opinion)

3rd: You don't join or kill the Calculator, everything is ok.

And how do i get the 4th? Cuz i'm about to beat the game yet again, and i wanna know how to get it.

TheReaper · Post by **TheReaper** » Thu Jul 18, 2002 1:20 am

Ok, this has been an often asked question. There are 4 endings here they are:

1) Barnaky merges with Calculator

2) You destroy calculator/run out of time

3) You merge with calculator with evil karma

4) You merge with calculator with good karma

ArchVile · Post by **ArchVile** » Thu Jul 18, 2002 5:27 am

whats the ending when you merge with Evil karma? Cuz i've always been a goodie to shoe, and done everything by the book and keep all civies out of the LOF.

TheReaper · Post by **TheReaper** » Thu Jul 18, 2002 5:39 am

Basically, the calculator knows that they will encounter the old brotherhood and makes a huge army to combat them.

I never got barnaky or the good ending 'cause I can't get Barnaky to do a damn thing and killing the brains takes down my karma. Any ideas to help?

Slider · Post by **Slider** » Thu Jul 18, 2002 7:01 am

I've heard that explosives and splash damage from grenades(do not target directly, just use a force throw) will not lower your karma when killing the brains.

ArchVile · Post by **ArchVile** » Thu Jul 18, 2002 10:21 am

IDK, my reputation was high enough it didn't matter when i shot up those brains. Maybe drugging them to death could work.

Walks with the Snails · Thu Jul 18, 2002 11:02 am

Yeah, I used drugs on the brains next to the Calculator. Just two would do it. Killing the remaining brains shouldn't kill your karma too much. Rather stupid how they did it, they should have made them hostile so you wouldn't be a bad guy just doing what was required to stop the robots from wiping out humanity. I managed to get the bad ending even though I had spotless karma by killing all the brains and then murdering Barnaky while he was neutral. You can also gun down that pansy Dagger Squad at the entrance if you plan ahead for the bad ending.

ArchVile · Post by **ArchVile** » Thu Jul 18, 2002 11:58 am

is the bad ending when the BOS leaders get lost in the desert, and the calculator runs scenarios on the possible war?

Walks with the Snails · Thu Jul 18, 2002 12:09 pm

Yeah, basically the Calculator, which is now you, got the BOS leadership out of the way so there would be no remaining opposition to challenge its rule.

ArchVile · Post by **ArchVile** » Thu Jul 18, 2002 12:16 pm

Well then what happens with the good ending, cuz i always thought that that was it?

Walks with the Snails · Thu Jul 18, 2002 1:25 pm

It talks about giving up your body as being a noble sacrifice for the benefit of humanity. Bolstered by the robot army of the Calculator, the Brotherhood no longer faces any outside threats and freely shares its technology with the people of the wastes as well as welcomes ghouls and mutants to the party as equals. Pretty much warm and fuzzy. Basically the same end results but you're not quite as Machiavellian.

TheReaper · Post by **TheReaper** » Fri Jul 19, 2002 1:10 am

You can't drug the brains in the three rooms as they are on lower ground levels wiht no way to them. Splash damage still takes your karma down but not as much. I have to try and OD the first brains next time then and hope for the best.

btw; WWTS, what was your karmatic title (the good one)?

Walks with the Snails · Fri Jul 19, 2002 4:08 am

My last time through I was Guardian of the Wastes before meeting the Calculator. After killing the brains, I was knocked back to Warrior but was on the positive end. I remember my first time through, I shot all the brains, even the ones next to the Calculator, and still got the good ending. I wanted to see the bad ending, too, so I reloaded and killed Barnaky after he was on my side, which pushed me over.

TheReaper · Post by **TheReaper** » Fri Jul 19, 2002 6:12 am

Wow, how did you manage to get that high? I could only make Shield of Hope and never higher...

Slider · Post by **Slider** » Fri Jul 19, 2002 6:25 am

I think that your Charisma(especially if it is a high Charisma) might help you get a better karma title. Someone with more info about the game scripting might know about it, like OTB....

TheReaper · Post by **TheReaper** » Fri Jul 19, 2002 6:56 am

Yeah, maybe he'll see this or I'll have to PM him about it... Thanks for telling me Slider. Much appreciated

Walks with the Snails · Fri Jul 19, 2002 8:49 am

Yeah, I did have something like 8 or 10 charisma with that guy, maybe that's it. My first character had at least 6, too, since I remember giving him Leader.

ArchVile · Post by **ArchVile** » Fri Jul 19, 2002 10:53 am

Ya charisma is extremely useful if you ask me. Lets you get better ppl sooner. Like I had Slim and Clarise (mmmm Clarise) before i hit the last bunker with a CH of 8 and Brown Noser.

twiztid wanderer · Post by **twiztid wanderer** » Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:06 am

Has anybody gotten all of the endings in one sitting. Well I mean saving before you kill the brains and whatnot and complete the game in every which way? I think I have anyways or maybe I couldn't get the good/evil maybe only one. Somebody care to enlighten me on this?