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[comics] Red Son
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:32 pm
by Kashluk
Just read through this amazing three-piece comic book called
Superman: Red Son (2003). The point is, that how different would DC universe be if Superman's space ship / space cradle had landed on Soviet Ukraine instead of Kansas.
The whole alternative universe dealio doesn't end there, there's plenty of changes and familiar faces in peculiar places. The story takes plenty of twists, but IMHO they're all very well thought out. If you're anything like me and love all things ahistoric, you will probably love this one as well. There's plenty of Cold War goodness, but on a bit 'higher level', there's also quite a heap of philosophizing about free will and good intentions.
The three issues were really, really good. I whole-heartedly recommend them to you all.
The scans below might contain some spoilers:
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http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9950 ... reen02.png
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:52 am
by SenisterDenister
I've heard about this and subsequently have always wanted to read it.
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:09 am
by Manoil
You should also consider reading the Batman: No Man's Land arc. Pretty sizeable read, but it's pretty good most of the way through.
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:58 am
by Manoil
Just finished it. Very well done indeed.
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:57 am
by Stalagmite
Will try to get to reading it sometime. Alas, my reading schedule on my free time is quite backed up at the moment.
I'll bookmark the page in any case.
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:01 am
by Yonmanc
Manoil wrote:You should also consider reading the Batman: No Man's Land arc. Pretty sizeable read, but it's pretty good most of the way through.
One of my faves.
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:48 am
by Manoil
Yonmanc wrote:Manoil wrote:You should also consider reading the Batman: No Man's Land arc. Pretty sizeable read, but it's pretty good most of the way through.
One of my faves.
What did you think was the biggest turning point in that?
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:36 pm
by Yonmanc
Manoil wrote:Yonmanc wrote:Manoil wrote:You should also consider reading the Batman: No Man's Land arc. Pretty sizeable read, but it's pretty good most of the way through.
One of my faves.
What did you think was the biggest turning point in that?
When that woman chooses to die instead of the babies, and Joker is remoseful because he failed to destroy the humane spirit.
And the bit where XzazX or however you spell it gets free. That was fun.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:30 am
by Manoil
Yonmanc wrote:Manoil wrote:Yonmanc wrote:
One of my faves.
What did you think was the biggest turning point in that?
When that woman chooses to die instead of the babies, and Joker is remoseful because he failed to destroy the humane spirit.
And the bit where XzazX or however you spell it gets free. That was fun.
I was first struck considerably during the unmasking. There were a great deal of those-caliber moments, though. Definitely seemed to hit a bit harder than the Marvel Civil War, though that dragged on considerably and didn't have quite as many huge moments in it. Same goes for World War Hulk.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:00 am
by Redeye
Looks good.
Does the Soviet Superman actually read the original works/Soviet Constitution/etc. or is he politically illiterate like the regular superman appears to be?
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:48 am
by Manoil
The latter, essentially.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:17 am
by Kashluk
But laden with the 'unwritten socialist ideals'.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:45 pm
by Manoil
True. And then some.
This is my next read:
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:09 pm
by Retlaw83
Kashluk wrote:But laden with the 'unwritten socialist ideals'.
Superman is laden with the unwritten American ideals so it works.
In the end, what does Superman care for political literacy on a planet full inferior assholes? He's fucking Superman.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:33 pm
by Manoil
Retlaw83 wrote:Kashluk wrote:But laden with the 'unwritten socialist ideals'.
Superman is laden with the unwritten American ideals so it works.
In the end, what does Superman care for political literacy on a planet full inferior assholes? He's fucking Superman.
It's the compassion that makes him Superman, just like it's the hate that makes Batman.
Were you aware that Batman has a fallback method to kill every other superhuman in case they turn on him?
goat in a coat on a boat :plateofshrimp:
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:34 pm
by Blargh
BUT
THEY ARE IMAGINARY
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:14 pm
by Manoil
heh
Re: goat in a coat on a boat :plateofshrimp:
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:29 pm
by Stalagmite
Attempted tickler of imaginations but fails with realists wrote:BUT IMAGINARY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGsVMIIdtgw
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:56 pm
by Megatron
I liked red son quite a bit. Usually I hate superman as I think he's too overpowered but it kind of worked in Red Son, from what I remember. And the last third was actually decent instead of lamme-o.
i like it when comics do A TWIST AN ALTERNATE TAKE on a hero if you are familiar with the broad strokes
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:24 am
by Yonmanc
Manoil wrote:Yonmanc wrote:Manoil wrote:What did you think was the biggest turning point in that?
When that woman chooses to die instead of the babies, and Joker is remoseful because he failed to destroy the humane spirit.
And the bit where XzazX or however you spell it gets free. That was fun.
I was first struck considerably during the unmasking. There were a great deal of those-caliber moments, though. Definitely seemed to hit a bit harder than the Marvel Civil War, though that dragged on considerably and didn't have quite as many huge moments in it. Same goes for World War Hulk.
Civil war didn't really do it for me.
Fave moment of No Man's Land is when superman realises his bullshit won't work, and pisses off back to Metropolis.
Fuck Superman, he's an asshole.
