Ack! Item editing problems

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 9:47 pm

I've been trying to implement a few changes in FO2, but I'm having trouble getting the item editors to work properly. FIC seems to be working fine, but automatically switches the order of the weapon modes when I save the file. Even if a weapon is single shot only, the null mode will be placed in mode 1 and in game the weapons only attack will be the alternate fire. FIME won't even run, it gives me some kind of load error. Can anyone help me out with either of these problems?

Mutateman · Post by **Mutateman** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 10:33 pm

Hello,

You might try checking if you have the latest version of each editor.
If you do, then you have to give a little more info on what the problem
is. (ie. FIME doesn't work at all. Does it give you an error message?
If so, what's the message?) It might also help if you can tell us what
OS you are running, and what file(s) from FO2 you have tried to
change.

FIC can only change 1 item into another item of the SAME type.
You'll need FIME to really edit/make items. FIME requires these two
files MSVBVM60.DLL and OLEAUT32.DLL. Check to see if you have
them on your system. If not, you'll have to do a net search and find them.

I'm, by far, no expert on modding, but I've been dabbling with it for
some time now. I hope this helped. If not, I'm certain one of the
more knowledgable modders can.

Sincerely,
Mutateman

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 11:59 pm

FIME just gives me a load error. That's it, just a little box that say "Load error" and then it craps out on me. I have both of the .dlls because I myself have VS6 on my computer.

I'm not trying to change items types at all with FIC, I just want to edit item attributes. No offence, but did you even read my problem? It just switches the firing modes.

BTW Running 2000 professional here.

Mutateman · Post by **Mutateman** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 5:32 am

Hello,

Sorry, that was my mistake. I mistook FIC for the inventory editor,
which ONLY lets you change items from one type to another, and
their quantity. I'm truly sorry.

As to the problem at hand, It seems that FIC doesn't save the Item
Proto files properly. The only way around this (since you cannot get
FIME to work) is to edit the file with a Hex-editor, and fix the error.

The problem with FIME might have to do with your OS. I cannot get
the program to work on my brother's XP system, but it works fine
on my Win98 system.

Again, sorry about the confusion.

Sincerely,
Mutateman

danferry · Post by **danferry** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 12:41 pm

XP does have a compatability wizard that will allow you to load programs in 95 98 me 2000 compatable modes. Once you load them, you need to right click the icon and set the compatability mode for when you start the program.

To access the compatability wizard, click start, move cursor to Programs, then Accessories, then click on Program Compatability Wizard.

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 5:58 pm

What? God damnit, where's Red when you need him.

Red · Post by **Red** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 6:33 pm

Sorry, I was off to pickup a mini-van I just bougth (and my car died when I picked up the mini-van (starter seems dead - she must be jealous)).

Anyway, for FIME, it's actually at version 1.41 (I think, anyway, the current version is no longer 1.1 as the one hosted on DaC). The latest version fixes a few bugs (inlcuding screwy mode stuff and weird things whne putting negative values).

I have Windows XP at home but I never even ran the damn thing (well, the latest version) so I don't know if it has any issues, I'll give it a whirl tonight (and include the link to where to download it since the address provided in the 1.1 readme no longer works).

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 8:07 pm

I don't have XP, though, I have 2000 professional. FIC works, there's just that one bug that drives me nuts.

Red · Post by **Red** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 12:26 am

OK, well, I'm back home now, and it's not FIME but FIC that's been updated and should be working fine.

Sadly though the FIC author's Fallout site is now dead...

Both work fine on my computer though I still didn't check wether they save the pro files properly.

FIME's issue probably won't ever be fixed as MatuX (it's author) is now inactive on the FO scene, so find FIC...

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:21 am

I already downloaded FIC from DAC, but it's doing the mode switch thing I talked about earlier. Do you know where I can get another version?

Red · Post by **Red** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:32 am

Version I have is 3.5.0.0071, I couldn't find a link to FIC on the site...

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:39 am

The latest entry in the version history of mine is
3.5.0.0069. I don't suppose you still have your install file?

I couldn't find a link to FIC on the site...

Did you try looking in the Fallout 2 Files section? That's where I got it.

Red · Post by **Red** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 3:06 am

Don't worry about it, the only difference between the two versions is that his nick changed... If the problem's still there then we're in trouble... I'll contact him and ask about it.

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 3:07 am

That's a good idea, this is a very frustrating problem.

Red · Post by **Red** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 3:19 am

Last time it took him 4 months to reply -- but he replied!

Red · Post by **Red** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 6:46 pm

OK, well, this time it was much faster :)

He said that he should have fixed all problems in 3.5x (well, he didn't say that per say but that's how I interpreted what he said).

Anyhoo if you could send the pro file causing trouble (or just tell me which one)... If not all of course and I'll mail it to him.

red@duckandcover.net

Well, you could do it yourself, the email in the readme should be valid.

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 6:53 pm

It's all of them, there's no one problem .pro file.

I went ahead and emailed him about it myself.

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 4:08 am

Hey, red, if I wanted to edit the hex code manually to switch the modes back, what would I have to do? I already have a hex editor, I just don't have any clue which values I need to change.

Red · Post by **Red** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 4:27 am

Both FIC and FIME include the offsets of the values which need to be changed... So read up on that and you should know what to do.

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 4:33 am

Err... Not seeing it in FIC, and I don't have FIME on this computer. Any online docs you know of?