Duck and Cover

Is it possible to become a made man for the bishop family?
I normally go with the Wrights and end up wiping out all the other families in New reno.
The way it normally goes is
Wipe out raiders
Get case from moore
Deliver case to bishop, he is supiciuos cos someone like me wiped out raiders
Implicate Bishop and NCR, get disk to deliver from Vault City
Deliver disk and 'Take out' Westin
Back to Vault City and return message
Back to reno and mission for carlson
Back to NCR and 'Take out' carlson
Back to Reno, Bishop says what i have learnt is too much and must be 'taken out'

Is it asking too much to let the Bishop&Chosen One's kid grow up knowing who his father is?

all i had to do was get the breaf case from moore in VC, bring it to bishop and let him give me the job.
IIRC westin is in the NCR on his ranch. so, talk to the Sherif of NCR (on the curb near the police station) and ask about working for westin. if you have found a syringe of "poison" then you are in luck! (i forgot were this poison is... but it might be somewhere in the NCR-- if anyone knows, elaborate, please)
so, once you got the go ahead about working for westin, talk to his gaurd to the left of the sherif. you should get in, and be asked to talk to westin. after talking, use the poison on him (action cursor on westin/scroll down to the "item" icon, and select the poison from your inventory)
he should do a little show of gasping, etc.. then die. take his cash and pancor.

return to bishop, he is happy. next job IIRC is to kill carlson.
get some explosives, return to the NCR. you should be able to get into calson's house (if you steal a presidential pass from ...? in tandy's house)
save your game, set the dynamite for like 10 seconds, steal/plant it on carlson's kid, immideatly talk to the child and tell him to "go see your daddy" and he will run inside, up to his father. (it may take a few tries with different times on the dynamite, but once you get it...) when he reaches his father, the dynamite should blow, exploding carlson into chunks of meat along with his son... you dirty devil you..

when you get back to bishop's he should make you a main man. i never got the " you know too much" thing.... hope this helps

(havnt played in a while, hope info isnt too off)

You're probably not getting Made because you kill his raiders.

And for killing Westin, I think one super stim will do him in.

Maybe you could try just beating Westin up with your fists.

I could imagine that he'd be pissed at someone who kills his mercs.

I have become a made man for Bishop, even after killing his mercenaries. However I can just never talk to him again, or he brings it up in conversation, and kills me.

Strange...he says how you must be one badass to kill all the raiders alone, and then he attacks you with 3 guards in his chambers. Is he a fool, or does he think he will just get lucky, and get critical hits?

Something I was wondering about on the topics of Bishop...In a game of mine, I became a Made Man for Bishop, and I tried sleeping with either his daughter, or his wife, but when I walk out he attacks me, no matter what dialogue option I choose.

I suppose my game is ruined now, and even though I am a made man I cannot sleep with them, not even once to get the safes.

Anyways, is it a stupid glitch in Fallout 2, where you have to sleep with them after delivering the brief case, but if you do before, or after you are done working for him he kills you, unless you previously did it?

Only talk to bishop about the important things - briefcase, kill westin, kill carlson. If you just 'stop-by' then you cant avoid a fight, the best way to avoid getting into a fight is to sneak through his office but its a good excuse to take out the bishop family and get about 4,000 exp. of course leaving the mother of your child angela bishop alive.

Better off being buddies with Vault city and being captain of the guard, not forgetting to 'takeout' 3 of the 4 families in new reno

You cannot avoid killing Angela, she attacks you, and never gives up, even if you get her to 1 hp.

Well the obvious comment is not to attack her at all, then you wont kill ker, unless your party feels a little trigger happy.
If i am gonna wipeout the bishops then i normally take both angela and her mother upstairs then start a fight with mr bishop. Both women are safe and i get my massacare :-D

What is the purpose of saving them then, since your purpose is obviously not moral values?(Provoking a massacre)

After all, surely Mr. Bishop has much more to offer the wasteland, and his plans could change the world.

"IIRC westin is in the NCR on his ranch. so, talk to the Sherif of NCR (on the curb near the police station) and ask about working for westin. if you have found a syringe of "poison" then you are in luck! (i forgot were this poison is... but it might be somewhere in the NCR-- if anyone knows, elaborate, please) "


i think you have to go to the doctor in NCR. just search his place

Well, you can always convince Mrs. Bishop to dump her husband.

Or you could just kill the Bishops and the 2 rivalling families (Wright not included as killing them will lower your karma), giving u a welcome karma boost. Heh, u cant imagine the satisfaction in culling that fat ol' Senor Mordino.