Halo sucks

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 8:04 pm

I've just been rampaging through this game since it came out on PC and I must say that the console people must have no idea about good first person shooters.

Hearing the praises Halo has earned, I was eager to start playing it as soon as possible. I haven't completed the game yet, but it's been sucking really bad all the way.

Empty, linear maps, which aren't even pretty; very limited amount of different looking monsters / places / voices / sounds / guns but STILL takes nearly 2 gigs hard drive space; sucky vehicles, no real idea of physics when your Jeep slides on gravel like it was on skates in Stanley Cup match... The list goes on and on.

Is this the most overrated game ever or what? It's average *at most* on multiplayer, but I can't believe how any decent person could've standed the single player long enough to actually play it through?

ExtremeDrinker · Post by **ExtremeDrinker** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 9:18 pm

I got this for Christmas for the XBOX...It's still in the shrink-wrap..Just waiting for the store to lose most of the post-Christmas rush so I can take it back.

I hate FPS unless it's Doom I, Doom II, Rise of The Triad, or Duke Nukem 3D...Does Descent I and II count as FPS?

Spazmo · Post by **Spazmo** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 9:21 pm

It is kinda bland. It's a blast in co-op, but there's nothing really special about the game itself.

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 9:25 pm

Still every console player I know goes about it like "OMG THE BEST FPS EVAH". But can I blame them, maybe they just haven't seen anything better?

ExtremeDrinker · Post by **ExtremeDrinker** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 9:33 pm

Seriously, though..Who didn't start out with a console? I started with an Atari 2600, moved up to an Intellevision, then got the NES...Moved up to a PC after that...

Then got the Genesis, a SNES, and a Sega Saturn...Got a PS1 for $20 at a garage sale with 54 games...And then I got an XBOX..

I've used the PC more than anything though...And I've got about 300 games, not counting the "free" things I found on IRC or filesharing......

I prefer the PC for most gaming, but for platforming, consoles are the only way to go..And I live for platforming games...Plus, GTA III and Vice City really kick ass on the XBOX...

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 9:37 pm

Well, yeah, I started with the one and original 8-Bit NES... Still have Super-NES back home. No other consoles have entered my domain though, they're banned forever.

But I have played Vice City on both PC and PS2... I must say, PC version kicked it's ass all around. I simply don't see any reason to bother with console games, Halo and the like are good examples.

Raymondo · Post by **Raymondo** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 9:40 pm

ItÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s very simple to see why PC gamers donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t like Halo and why Console gamers do, complexity is why. Console gamers are amazed with the uber graphics, the cool simple weapons and vehicles, how it plays so simple and how they donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t have to remember which weapon is the best out of all 10 of them because for console games that FAR to much to remember.
However for PC gamers itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s just a game to short and simple because PC gamers like more complex games and Halo is far to simple and doesnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t have enough stuff for them. Also taking out Coop was a BAD idea, its kind of like taking out a 1/10 of a pie then selling it at regular piece.

Well thatÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s what I think anyway but whoever listens to me.

ExtremeDrinker · Post by **ExtremeDrinker** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 9:47 pm

I played GTA III and Vice City for the PC, and I loved it...The XBOX is a small improvement..BUT, you play it on the TV instead of a small monitor (17 inches in my case.)..It's fun to hook my XBOX up to my parent's 68 inch HDTV...Even funner to hook it up to a projector and play games with life-sized cars or people..

I still think my PC is better...But the XBOX is more convenient if I'm on the road...It's hard to strap a desktop PC, monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers into the back of a cycle..But you can fit the full XBOX and the games into a backpack...And you can leave the saddle-bags empty for a few cases of beer...

POOPERSCOOPER · Post by **POOPERSCOOPER** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 9:57 pm

i thought the lamest part was the enemy designs, they were all goofy looking and there wasn't many of them so it was like fighting the same thing over and over.

taltiren · Post by **taltiren** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 10:09 pm

Even the levels in halo are pretty much repeated over and over. There were very few surprises.

I think the only time I was surprised was when I found out that the stupid disney aliens could speak English. It is fun to pistol whip those bastards though.

iohkus · Post by **iohkus** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 10:52 pm

Halo is unreal with shitty vehicles and slower weapons / physics.

no real depth in the multiplayer, yeah... CAPTURE THE FLAG DOES NOT = DEPTH.

renegade was the last good FPS i played... maybe savage

Nicolai · Post by **Nicolai** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 1:33 am

I played it for an hour or so before i turned it off and deleted it.
The enemies were crap, the weapons were even worse, and that jeep was terrible. I'm glad that I didnt pay for it tho :).

avenger69ie · Post by **avenger69ie** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:05 am

lol, i loved halo, and i cant wait for halo 2.

want reasons? try the reverse of everything
already posted and then some.

Strap · Post by **Strap** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:21 am

I agree that HALO is way too over rated.
It sucks for the reasons stated above, and that it was made for the console players. The linearity and mindlessness of a shoot 'em up FPS mixed with the dumbed down approach of consoles is not an outstanding mix.

Mihail · Post by **Mihail** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:31 am

I think halo pc is rather good, SP wise, MP is lacking just like it did on X-box but still it's a rather fine FPS, if your looking to get away from WW2 sort of FPS's

Strap · Post by **Strap** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 8:42 am

Heh, I never think about MOH and BF1942 anymore because no one seems to talk about it and plus I never baught any of them.

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:46 pm

Well the whole Medal of Honor - series is pretty crappy in my opinion, if you want classy WW2 fighting FPS, go get yourself Call of Duty.

I don't really know about Battlefield, because I've only played it once (many hours though

) in a LAN-party and even then, we only played the Desert Combat - modification, which was kinda fun. Is there even a single player mode in that game?

Doom > Halo, anyday baby,
my 0.02 $.

Nicolai · Post by **Nicolai** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 4:36 pm

Well, there is a SP-mode in BF1942, but its basically just about playing the mp-maps against bots.

The Gaijin · Post by **The Gaijin** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 8:32 pm

Halo on the PC is both hilarious and fun when you're playing with 3-6 of your friends on a Saturday night and no one's taking it too seriously. The single-player sucks, and playing with people you don't know would probably be more annoying than anything else.

Burnov · Post by **Burnov** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 10:15 pm

In response to the title. *ding ding ding ding* "We have a winner of the MR. CAPTAIN OBVIOUS PAGEANT 2003!"

Heh.

Yeah. If halo was a porn starlet it would be one of those nasty guttersnipe whores that gets throatfucked by Max Hardcore and tossed aside like yesterday's garbage. Perhaps that description might be a bit too over the top and vulgar. Eh, reprimand me if so, but Halo deserves the distinction as such.

My experience with Halo was brief sometime around '01 and boy, it sure sucked a whole load of donkey balls. First of all I played it on the X-box so that just added to the suckitude. I was just in awe of how horrible the ai was in the game. I played in this one level at the base of a cul-de-sac canyon type thinger. Your little shuttle had crashed or something and it looked initially kind of ambient, but after this little sawed-off half a bastard prick of an alien ran up to me and I strafed around it and it tossed a bomb at me at point blank range and "blew itself off a cliff" and I didn't die. I knew there was something wrong. Still grinning mirthfully and trying to stay my laughter I played on.

A few seconds later I was forging my way up the canyon and some alien ships or something were flying in to strafe at me, I stuck close to the canyon wall and returned fire. I was actually surprised to find out the gunfire from the ships, these large looking laser things, were doing hardly any damage, my -assault rifle- was doing more than a spaceship's. How do these aliens expect to win a war with the odds stacked against them like that?

Well I in fact didn't manage to kill any of them because as they flew at me, they collided with the canyon wall on their strafing runs, repeatedly. To the point where they'd end up exploding and doing more damage to me that way. So yeah I just dropped the controller and walked away. Stupid, stupid, stupid game.

Later on a friend told me he bought the PC version, he said the weapon damage in multiplay was so pathetic that he actually achieved more getting into an aircraft and relentlessly ramming the other players with it. Since apparently according to him you can't shoot players out of vehicles, they have to wear it down with their guns... that's nice and balanced.

Personally, if I want an FPS with it all. I'll play operation flashpoint. It's got vehicles, it's more realistic in terms of weapons and wounding than any fps out there (which is important to me in such games), tons of mods, a huge editing community and the ai is a hell of a lot better than that of Halo's.