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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:14 pm
by Infinity Dose
there won't be any ground invasion of iran, unless US soldiers are ready to accept vietnam era casualty rates, even if the pentagoon unleashes some tactical nukes on iran.
as far as air invasion, it's still too dangerous, iran can sink a few warships and maybe a carrier, according to a lot of US generals and military leaders "all war game simulations have ended undesirably" i'm paraphrasing but that's what i read.
but really isn't this movie "300" analogous to US imperial projection on the world? now, the US is the old persian empire, and the iraqis are the outnumbered greeks at thermopolye (the insurgents who attack americans solely don't number beyond 10,000 vs. 140,000 + US and coalition troops stationed in Iraq)
also everyone knows Persia went downhill after Cyrus the Great. after Alexander left Persia weakened, the arabs invaded bringing the plague of Islam.
Xerxes was an expansionist idiot, sort of like Bush.
I saw the comic version of 300, i loled at all the greeks and persians who looked african? maybe they were slave warriors from africa i.d.k.
prussia and persia are different things, but the word Aryan is based on a persian sanskirt word i think, and Iran means literally "the land of aryans" i.e. indo european plateu people, scythians etc.
i wonder how many dumb nazi skinheads know that when they're calling themselves "The Aryan Super Race" they're actually saying they're Iranian xD
hitler knew the historical connotations, but he was always on speed.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:14 pm
by johnnygothisgun
Thor Kaufman wrote:jetbaby is probably referring to the east roman reich, with Konstantinopel aka Byzanz (byzantinian Reich) aka Istanbul and all that jazz, I think some greek, like Alexander (not sure) made at least that part of the roman empire strong after the downfall of the west roman part.
huh? the byzantine empire didnt appear until hundreds of years after the birth of christ. alexander the great lived in the fourth century BC, which would make him predate that by another several hundred years. also, the persian wars predate alexander by another several hundred years
lolol, read up on antiquarian history, you dont wanna look like haris do you?
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:43 pm
by Thor Kaufman
johnnygothisgun wrote:Thor Kaufman wrote:jetbaby is probably referring to the east roman reich, with Konstantinopel aka Byzanz (byzantinian Reich) aka Istanbul and all that jazz, I think some greek, like Alexander (not sure) made at least that part of the roman empire strong after the downfall of the west roman part.
huh? the byzantine empire didnt appear until hundreds of years after the birth of christ. alexander the great lived in the fourth century BC, which would make him predate that by another several hundred years. also, the persian wars predate alexander by another several hundred years
lolol, read up on antiquarian history, you dont wanna look like haris do you?
Seems like my history knowledge got a bit twisted, but I don't mind
Hitler stole all his symbols, I guess, swastika is indian, his greeting is roman etc.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:57 am
by emoutofthevee
I think that americans will let Iran be attacked in single air strike by Israel like Iraq was when Saddam was building atomic bomb. They would have a massive number of casulties if they would do a full scale invasion.
I think that too few people know that Persans are arian, moust of them (especialy in US) think of them as Arabs.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:58 am
by emoutofthevee
And about the movie, it can't be worse than "Alexander the great"...
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:03 am
by Infinity Dose
emoutofthevee wrote:I think that americans will let Iran be attacked in single air strike by Israel like Iraq was when Saddam was building atomic bomb. They would have a massive number of casulties if they would do a full scale invasion.
Israel won't because of these the Shahab 3 aka "Iran's Insurance Policy":
okay you get the picture.
also these guys (Hezbollah) have vowed to attack Israel if it invades Iran:
o noez ninjzollah hezbaninja wtf.
hijacked another thread xD
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:05 am
by Redeye
The US leadership is idiotic.
The specialist planners and analysts are not.
There is a difference between "RealFact" and "GoodFact".
"GoodFact" is what is necessary to be believed in order to support a dogma system.
The Leadership runs on GoodFact, not RealFact.
Planners and analysts are aware of this, but can't do much about it.
Complainers get replaced by sycophants.
We'll see, we'll see...
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:26 pm
by emoutofthevee
Israel knows how to deal wit hezbollah. The rockets are bigger problem but since Israel alredy has an atomic bomb...
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:03 pm
by jetbaby
If Israel knows how to deal with Hizbollah then why do they continue to flourish as one of the largest organizations there are opposing the Israeli government? Seems very well handled if you ask me. If you enjoy suicide bombings and angry men with Kalashnikovs sitting on your doorstep.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:21 pm
by Cimmerian Nights
If they wiped out Hezzie, that would put the kibosh on the $2 Billion a year we send them in military aid. That's a lot of yarmulkes and matzo-balls.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:36 pm
by johnnygothisgun
Cimmerian Nights wrote:If they wiped out Hezzie, that would put the kibosh on the $2 Billion a year we send them in military aid. That's a lot of yarmulkes and matzo-balls.
bear in mind that that 2 billion dollars is not given in quarterly installments, as is the case with every other nation who benefits by our incredible magnanimity (read: stupidity). we give it to the israelis in one big, lumpy, tax-free installment and, in another unprecedented move, dont require them to spend it on american technologies, but allow them to spend it on their own defense industry.
all that hard to swallow bullshit aside, please also consider for a moment why we would even give them 2 billion dollars a year at all - theyre a modern industrialized nation on par with most of europe, and are quite capable of subjugating their neighbors and upholding their apartheid state without our help
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:44 pm
by S4ur0n27
This thread is about 300?
Anyhow, it looks and sounds like the french version will be as funny as the Scarface one.
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:27 am
by emoutofthevee
jetbaby wrote:
If Israel knows how to deal with Hizbollah then why do they continue to flourish as one of the largest organizations there are opposing the Israeli government? Seems very well handled if you ask me. If you enjoy suicide bombings and angry men with Kalashnikovs sitting on your doorstep.
No I don't because I use to have them!
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:32 am
by AnneGwish
In an altogether unrelated matter. I'm going to watch this movie today, and if it's good enough to warrant it, tomorrow too.
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:23 pm
by jetbaby
I'm seeing it this weekend. :master chief:
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:59 pm
by VasikkA
I'm planning on not watching it this weekend. If the necessity occurs, I'll give you an update on monday of the potential consequences of this decision.
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:55 pm
by Cimmerian Nights
S4ur0n27 wrote:This thread is about 300?
Anyhow, it looks and sounds like the french version will be as funny as the Scarface one.
Le cheesey dubbing?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:30 pm
by POOPERSCOOPER
I'm going to see it with my friends and my dad will feel bad because I didn't go with him.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:38 am
by Cimmerian Nights
Get really baked and go, then watch it again on Dad's dime.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:09 pm
by POOPERSCOOPER
It's been sold out at most of the times and my friends don't have any organizational skills to take my advice and buy some tickets in advance before they sell out. Seriously if all the previous shows have been selling out way before they actually start don't you think it's a smart thing to anticipate the other times will too? Anyways I don't know when I will see it now becuase I waited all day just to go with my stupid friends when I should of just went early with my dad whom knows what happens when you go to the shows late.